24 Valve 2nd Gen Dodge Cummins 98.5-02 Discussion of 24 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with VP44 Injection Pumps
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:01 PM
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too high of fuel pressure to the injection pump will put too much pressure on the diaphragm inside causing hard start situations...vp44 do not like high pressure.

they are designed to start on 7psi and operate on 10psi+ while engine is running

do not run 45psi to a vp44 unless you want an early failure and fuel leaks..
 
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jigabop
I would never recommend a sump for someone with an in-tank lift pump.

1. they have to drop the tank and unhook that pump anyway.
2. sumps are NOT road legal
3. giant hole in the bottom of the tank.
4. sumps only delay 1/4 tank issues to 1/8th tank. they still suffer from fuel slosh.

draw straw 5 on the other hand.

1. made to retrofit into the in-tank pump canisters
2. 50%-150% cheaper than a sump
3. eliminates 1/4 tank issues completely if return line is located at the canister
4. legal for use on public highways
5. no hole in the tank at all.


I run the modified liberty module in mine which is essentially the same thing..
holds solid pressure with no fluctuations or drops/spikes in pressure even when the fuel empty light is on and the needle is in the red while intentionally trying to make fuel slosh happen... fill up was 34 gallons after the test.

would love to see a sump try that...

blue line with the 08-JIC fittings is the 1/2" draw straw 5, blue line with the QC fitting is the airdog150 return line, and the black QC line is the VP44 return line

start of the test...
Sumps are not road legal?? First I have heard of that.
 
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo
Sumps are not road legal?? First I have heard of that.
yep, DOT doesn't want your entire fuel tank dumping on the ground in the event of a leak or fuel line break in a car accident. that is the reason you will NEVER see a sump come factory on a car or truck. only thing I have legally seen them on is motorcycles. but they don't hold much fuel anyway.
 
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:55 AM
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Class 8 trucks have them, they have large fuel tanks?

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Plus they have a fuel line that runs between the the two tanks, guess they never leak..
 

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Old 09-04-2013, 12:14 PM
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according to this they are legal *IF* you have the line/sump below the tank protected from impact. so in other words legal if you have a skid plate. I don't know of a single truck running a sump that has made/installed a skid plate to protect it.

All fuel systems. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
 




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