head gasket?
 

seen coolant all under my truck i traced it up to the corner or i think head gasket on pass side right above where the oil filter goes has nayone else seen this is it the gasket weeping on the corner or??? and how hard is it to take head off so i can get it decked and new arp studs n gasket??? i work on cars but ive never had a head off a cummins thanks guys!!!!

Might check it with the truck running. When the water pump is going out it will dump a puddle of antifreeze.

yeah it could be your water pump. i would do the head studs anyhow. are you boosting above with the 150hp injectors?

it happens but pretty rare , i would clean it up and put some pressure test the system and verify exactly where the leak is spawning from

doing the head on a cummins is crazy easy although i would get help cause its pretty heavy and service information actually tells you to use a hoist to lift it

good luck
scott:hellox:

while head is off get it o-ringed

Might be a cracked block too. but there is a water passage in that area.

Head weights about 200lbS deff head stud and fire ring it

well i drove it 300 miles today and had no leaks??? it doesnt over heat or anything stay at about 190ish and i only boost 32psi nothing crazy fire ring it do i have to just get head ringed or block to im looking to just get stock head gasket with arp studs??? i heard you onyl want to use stock head gasket no aftermarket ones, ill have to clean it up tomorrow and see if i see it leaking and pressure test it


oh and i noticed it may look like coming out of that little 3/8s plug and fan blowing it over on the side

Has the head ever been off and the fire ring get machined to the head

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If the heads never been off I would just use a stock gasket

no heads never been off

Don't fire ring it, it will give constant issue.

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heres a picture of where i can see puddles


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and its leaking over to the other side of the head where thermostat is im guessing head gasket for sure i really dont want to change i was hoping it wasnt leaking lol

I wouldn't fire ring just do a new gasket and at least the mid strength arp head studs I know guys running a 120psi of boost on the stock gasket with the high strength stud I've pushed 70 on my 06 and I just have a stock gasket and the mid strength stud

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Filtering is a lot more common on 2nd gens tho they arent as strong as the 3rd or 4th gens my 02 is fire ringed got about 4000 miles on it all drag racing haven't had a prob yet

what all gaskets do i need head gasket manifold and valve cover seal

Valve cover seal isn't needed just don't mess it up when you take it off and all you'll need is the gasket between turbo and manifold also your heater grid gaskets I'd leave the manifold on the head you can use it as a handle

You really don't have any clue what your talking about do you? Fire ringing is a failure waiting to happen and should be used in only extremely high boost/timing applications. O-ringing is a more reliable solution that doesn't remove the firering of the gasket only compresses it with a o-ring cut in the head. As far has "strength" I've not seen any differences in material quality in head, block or gasket that would indicate one year or generation sealing surface was better than another and I've installed over 100 5.9l gaskets in the past 7 years. Fire ringing when used in daily driving applications typically fail quite quickly, be it the heat cycles and inadequate warm up times or just the nature of the setup. To be completely honest with you i think you made my case when you indicated that 120 psi was possible on a factory gasket with studs, the most ive ever seen with studs and factory gasket was 75 and it blew shortly after. When we made consecutive dyno pulls with my vp truck all above 830rwhp on spray it was ringed and saw around 75-90 dyno or street.

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Head set, valve stem seals, intake horn and plenum gasket, thermostat seal, exhaust gaskets and i recommend freeze plugs. Might want to grind the valves while your in there to. Don't order your gasket until you know the amount removed in the surfacing or you'll take a risk on getting the wrong gasket. Make sure the head is surfaced on a actual surfacer not a belt.

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Really my buddy's 1998 stock head gasket arp high tensile 135psi for 125000 miles now a truck I built 05 about 120 stock head gasket arp head high tensile I put that truck together 6 years ago no problem so there 2 thing here one the boost gauges on 2 different trucks or wrong (there auto meter ) or your wrong maybe you have seen them that high but that's not even as high as people say they are running on a stock gasket around here and I have heard that fire ringing isn't all that for a daily driver I've never heard of this o ring I've built about and I will go in the books and check but around 500 cummins I started in 04.5 when I bought my first truck and that was my test dummy a lot of guys are ok on cummins ok on duramaxs and ok on powerstrokes I know one motor when to countless different training on this one called cummins

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Point proven...its ok not to know....its not ok to try and give advice and act like you know when you don't. No one here will criticize or attack you for not knowing. But if you think the mods and members will let you spread nonsense information to individuals who are going to make expensive modifications and repairs you've got another thing coming. Now chances are if he was going to make 120 lbs of boost he would already know your full of it....its the idea that you could cost someone thousands with bad advice that bothers me. Btw, im not trying to attack you personally, only the incorrect information given.

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How the fuck is that incorrect we do that shit all day here and my comment of the 2nd to 3rd gen is that the 3rd gens stock handle more psi look I just got off the phone with premier performance ( I just orderd a 64 mm silver bullet for a customer) the guy I was talking to said he bought an 01 brand new by 03 he was pushing 150 psi all he has done in stock head gasket and arp high tensile studs said the truck had 30 k when he did all this back in 03 truck now has 235 no that's what he said not me the highest I've seen is about 120 on a stock gasket and yes I think it's sketchy but guys are doing and the theory behind it is gasket only blow when the head studs stretch so they say the high tensile will not stretch at all if it don't then the gasket stay in tack I'm not trying to give bad advice guys around here like to push the limits I don't and you never answerd my one question is a did 200 air dog gonna be bad on my 06 in Theroy I don't think so cause what fuel the cp3 dosent need goes back to the tank what your take that's one thing I don't fully understand thanks

What kind of setup is he running for boost numbers that high?


Luke

He didn't really say all I got was its an auto will a fully built sun coast he wasn't saying much about the start under the hood
And I'd like to apologize for cursing in my recent post I'm new to thing forum thing and I don't want to offend anyone

Great another "i can buy diesel parts....im a diesel tech!!!"
I think if thats the only reply i had i wouldn't/shouldn't even reply. How bout you quit arguing when you have NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Luke...have you heard 3rd gens can build more boost safely than a vp? Lol i dont even know how you could even think of asking if a regulated return fuel system would be safe for a cr truck when you've built 500 trucks.....we should be looking up to you for advice...:rolleyes:

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Ok I was asking that because a bunch of people that its bad to have one too big on there I don't think so but that's what airdog said I know that truck only needs a 165 and you partial right I know about setups but my mechaniac is a lot better at the understand of how they go hand and hand I'm not god and you aren't either I was just stating what I've seen what we've built and how they've all held up and Luke I can only get that high of boost out of my 02 running nos and my big charger is a 109 mm from garret but its fire ringed and studded I was just stating what he said

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And I went therw the books this morning and its 305 trucks but about 100-150 of them are just simple stuff like exhaust edge stuff like that

The only way to get above 110lbs is with that special High Octane NOS, What brand are you using i've been trying to get above 110psi all year.

You see my point though right? Lol
Ps, the mls hasn't really proven itself as far as longevity but ive seen a few fail around 45psi but timing but drive pressure were most likely the cause. I don't think if i was constantly making 45 i would expect factory gasket and studs to last long regardless of gasket style.

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What point you know nothing.... until you have passed that 100psi mark nothing you have to say is worthy.

I accidentally made 90 a few times doesn't that count?

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Is that 100psi no dont be a square and get wit da spoolin man.

wow i never saw a turbo that could stand up with that high of boost= crazy drive pressure. i seen several turbos explode on gas (nos). the highest i ever heard of around here is in the 90s:hellox:

As you know if the charger is sized correctly there's no need for big boost numbers. But how could I argue that with someone that thinks a factory 5.9L can take 120PSI.
I couldn't explain that a HX-55 moves almost double (roughly figured lol lets not make me do math - if you need to know the exact flow differences see the compressor map lol) cfm at 20psi than a hx-35 at 40 to a guy who would just explain to me he had sold plenty of cfm intakes and knows all about them :ouch::pca1:
The only reason my truck made those kind of numbers is I needed plenty of un-burnt fuel and we had it...... I actually think that turbo lives on...Not really sure how???? But since this guy's made 120PSI on a hx35 im sure it'll be fine!

yeah most higher boost numbers are from smaller turbos. :hellox:

I'm going to have to throw the BS Flag on this one boys


Luke

Lol I'll call you in the morning.:cool:

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got the head off and sent it to get checked and milled down ordered a stock gasket kit and arp studs, i found out there edge injectors in it.



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Ok fucktard one I never said on stock head I made it clear with high tensile studs my 02 is fire rings and I got a set of custom injectors in it biggest in the country ok and another I got close to 30 in the motor about 17 in the tranny to handle this so Luke idk how a guy who answers phones for Preimer would have a truck more built then mine as he stated 150 psi natural
Now if you guys have doublts I will load the fucker up (come spring getting her winter rebuild now and come to the closet strip and let you drive the fuckin thing I haven't made up my mind on paint job yet so it's in black primer so it's not a big deal if you wreck it ill build it again so kindly get back to me with the name of the strip and when the first drags are

I never claimed to have a built truck, hell I drive an old and slow 7.3 Power Stroke.

But your claims are BS buddy


Luke

My first post called you a troll...now my last post calls you a troll....no one cares we all know your full of it give it up already.

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I said it once now gonna be twice look I'm sorry my parents pasted away 6 years ago and left me money I'd give it all back to see them again but this is the cards I've been delt and to be technally my highest boost just barley got 150 not 160 or 155 150 on a cool fall night and I never said you did Luke I was stating what that guy said he had I have an old slow 99 7.3 lol cracked windshield it's the only truck I have that leaves pavement and its a blast to drive that old 6 speed ford had that you can never get a smooth shift from granny to second look I don't care if they blow and I'm not saying that mine won't ever blow I'm just saying they haven't yet

ok guys any ways im doin with a oem gasket n arp studs i dont think ill ever push past 45psi hnmmmmm lol i do 35 now and im thinking on gettin a new turbo but thats it. imma dyno it asap just to see what shes at