1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Oh we're talking DIESEL smoke, my bad, I thought we were going with Prince Albert in a can.Rocky
 
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1arock
Oh we're talking DIESEL smoke, my bad, I thought we were going with Prince Albert in a can.Rocky
That would be in another forum...
 
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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I always like it when some is tailgating you. That is a perfect time to slam it to the floor and give them something to think about. They usually learn the first time to back up.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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You guys are absolutely rite there is a time and a place for smoke. Like a quiet country road or the face of that jerk off tailgating you but please don't go around smokeing people out. I started this thread to see what people are doing with there 1st gens and to get a few laughs out of it.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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So lets get this cleared up.

no power because it smokes.


lots of power because of no smoke.


NOW I GET IT.

more explaning is needed for some of the nubes

Dar
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 1STGENFARMBOY
...more explaning is needed for some of the nubes...
Dar, you know as much as anyone so maybe you can shed some light on it. But as I'm here, and at risk of being WAY off topic, I'll give it a shot. Any omissions on my part, anyone please feel free to add and edit as necessary.

Big clouds of black smoke = a lot of wasted and incompletely burnt diesel fuel, even though it may look cool, and so the 'wasted' part could be debated. I put 'wasted' there as it is contributing very little with regards to creating horsepower. If the fuel is not completely combusted, you didn't get every BTU out of the fuel that you could have, so you're not fully harnessing that fuels potential to make power.
Now, you might well be thinking, 'Wait a minute. I see pulling trucks and tractors and even that picture of BC's outstanding vehicle wafting big ol' clouds. What gives?' Well, most all of those engines have essentially fixed timing. That means that the engine only has so much time in order to burn all that fuel. And as we all know, more fuel = more power, (along with various other things.) Additionally, those pulling trucks are using some of that fuel to COOL DOWN the piston crowns and to help transfer heat and stop melting pistons.
Clean stacks and tailpipes = an engine running efficiently. i.e. using all the calorific value the diesel has to offer. OR it means nasty DPF's and choking emissions equipment.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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more explaning is needed for some of the nubes

Dadgummit I resemble that statement. guess I must be a nube I've only had diesels for 32 years and from my first NT335 cummins until the junk I drive now, when ever I have turned the pumps up they all smoked more and had more power too ( or so it seemed to me and since I have always been the one paying for the fuel and burned pistons and fried turbos) some of you smarter fellers are gonna have to convince me. I aint sayin that you should go arouind blacking out every intersection you take off from, but to condem smoke, my god this is Diesel BombersRocky
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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We're not condemning smoke. Just condemning the people that feel its necessary to blow smoke all the time. I do agree with 1arock's opinion to a certain point. More fuel= more power and with more fuel comes smoke. That is unless you have a big enough turbo to clean it up.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 901stgen
We're not condemning smoke. Just condemning the people that feel its necessary to blow smoke all the time. I do agree with 1arock's opinion to a certain point. More fuel= more power and with more fuel comes smoke. That is unless you have a big enough turbo to clean it up.
It's not necessarily a big turbo that'll clean it up, (for the most part,) it's a fast enough spooling turbo if you've tampered with the AFC... and we all have!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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No one with a first, 2nd gen can say they don't have smoke with power. I have seen newer electronic trucks with high power and little to no smoke. These trucks will smoke if tuned up. Its just the way it is. Anyone who has a hopped up first gen with big injectors and some fuel that says my truck don't smoke is not telling the truth. Some do smoke more then others, some smoke more then they need to ( bad afc settings ), but they all smoke. Most people that posted " smoke is stupid " better go and take their trucks back to stock.
 
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