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how to make your non I/C Truck an I/C Truck

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Old 07-10-2010, 02:18 PM
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Ok guys we put a stock I/C in a truck today in the shop and figured i would take pics and post it all up

As always ~ SAFETY FIRST!!

- Disconnect the Negative cable of your battery system.
- Chock the wheels and set the parking brake.
- Have a known good fire extinguisher close by.
- Have good lighting.
- Have a clean and orderly work area.
- Always exercise good working practice with your tools.
- Use safety goggles, gloves, masks, etc where appropriate.

so first off remove the grill
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then i held up the cooler and marked the holes

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the back side before

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after cutting the holes put the cooler up where it is soupose to go and do a dry fit

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I made brackets that plated that whole thing but i forgot to take pics


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now your soupose to use a different intake manifold plate i made the stock one work

remove the crossover pipe and install the 90* intake horn

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the throtle bracket would not fit with the new horn so i modified it to fit

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with the bracket installed

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other than that is was real simple

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Old 07-10-2010, 09:28 PM
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What benifit would I get with an IC in my 1st gen
 
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:30 PM
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cooler air means more power!
 
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and cooler air means its denser so more will fit in the hole
 
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:18 AM
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Cooler air means denser air, so a power gain will happen. How noticeable it will be is directly related to the full power screw... You simply get more bang for the turn, with the I/C.

The largest advantage is that, when you tweak the pump, the I/C will keep those EGT's down.

Either way, it's a win-win.
 
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Interesting, but why is a non-intercooled 1989 Cummins engine rated at the same horsepower as an intercooled 1993 Cummins engine is?
Both are rated at 160hp @ 2500rpms.

I am under the impression that the intercooler DOES NOT add horsepower, but helps lower EGTs, and was added in '91-1/2 for emissions reasons, not for power gain.

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Old 07-11-2010, 11:10 AM
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I cannot answer that for sure but the injectors are different and flow different amounts of fuel. and correct the I/C was added for emissions
 
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:29 AM
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I'm reasonably certain that the Non-I/C engine's horsepower was also kept down due to the overall turbo size and factory tuning, which was, once again, for emissions.
Dodge (like most U.S. manufacturers) didn't want to see smoke from their diesels.
Neither did/does the E.P.A.

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Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
Dodge (like most U.S. manufacturers) didn't want to see smoke from their diesels.
Neither did/does the E.P.A.
If they could only see us now
 
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the non-i/c trucks do have bigger injectors from the factory which will support 300hp most say. So upgrading to an injector like PODs in a non-i/c is pretty much useless. Hope i added something to this discussion and i will be intercooling mine, and water injection, just for added reliability and keep heat down and power up
 


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