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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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okay guys, i got my hands on a intercooler out of a 07 5.9 cummins, and i was wanting to know how well of an upgrade it would be? i havnt got the measurments yet, but it has to be better that the stocker, right?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 12:54 AM
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its got to be a good upgrade. but have you seen the size of those things? good luck making it fit if it does fit i want some pics
 
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 01:10 AM
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I've heard of it being done, requires trimming () of the frame rails a bit. On the other hand, custom IC's are well over 1000 bucks...
 
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by remps
I've heard of it being done, requires trimming () of the frame rails a bit. On the other hand, custom IC's are well over 1000 bucks...
You need to trim it quite more then a bit...

And a custom I/C can be had cheaper then that. David should chime in soon enough with his set-up.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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aw come on guys, no one have pics or anything of that nature that would either encourage me or stray me from this idea??
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Here you are. 3rd Gen intercooler?? - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS
And a custom I/C can be had cheaper then that. David should chime in soon enough with his set-up.

I dunno Tommy, A custom, made to spec IC from Joe Hellman was approx $1300. That IS still a lot less than most aftermarket "kits" for the later trucks though.

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Here's the Hellman unit (left) next to a Banks early 1st gen IC (the Banks core is the same size as our stock/OEM unit).

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I had Joe build it with 3" plumbing. He uses 3/16" plate aluminum for the end tanks and guarantees the unit to 100psig.

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Proper dimensioning allows the new IC to fit dead against the radiator support and just barely accommodate the AC condenser coil.

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And then still have something of a custom transmission fluid cooler fit up top.

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Certainly, a custom built unit allows one to run the charge-air plumbing where YOU want it.

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As large as the new IC is with the 1/2" core tubes, a set of HT3B~S300 62/14 twins blowing full song fueled by some Shiede 6x.016" EDMs presents with only 3psig of pressure drop across the IC and it's associated 3" plumbing.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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okay well i decided that i do not want to cut my frame, bc i have a 170lb custom made front end replacement, so whats the best bang for the buck without having to cut the frame?
and btw, that custom made ic is freaking wicked!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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Though I have no 1st-hand experience with it, it seems like that IC out of a Ferd Powerstroke works very well and fits with minimal trimming.

There are those with plastic end-tanks and those with metal end-tanks, . . . . go with the latter.

Do a forum search here in these fine forums as well as the others for the Powerstroke IC in the 1st gen sections. Plenty of folks have done the install and a good number have posted How-To's with pics.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 04:07 AM
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Nadir Point has a great write up on here on the PS intercooler.

https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-r...tercooler.html

And David I dot know why but for some reason I thought you had about half that cost into your intercooler...
 
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