1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old 05-26-2009, 03:17 PM
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ive got a 1993 club cab 2wd d250. its completely stock and intercooled. so ive been looking for injectors to put in before i turn the pump up. gauges are on order. my question is about the injectors. ive heard tons of different things about what works and what doesnt. i know the 2nd gen injectors seem to be cheaper per horsepower than the 1st gen. so my question is will the 2nd gens fit in the 1st gen. if so what do i need 2 make them work. need question is im going to be pulling a racecar trailer ,open trailer, with a 2300 pound car for about an hour and fifteen minutes once a week with no heavy hills, and then cruising around occasionally. turbo upgrades is in near future, and motor is having bugs worked out before swap. what would be the best injector 370's pods or what?
 
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Old 05-26-2009, 03:47 PM
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2nd gen injectors will not just swap in place of the 1st gens. The injector line nuts are a different size. You could swap nozzles from the boddies of the 2nd gens to the bodies of your 1st gens but then the pop pressure would be to high and you would have to pay a shop to lower it. By the time your done you could have just bought a set made for a 1st gen. Ask around in our price quote section, we have a few companys on here that can get you a good set of injectors for a good price. Some 370's would be a good match for what you want to do.
 
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:01 PM
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ok if i got a set of 370's what would that do to the 160 factory horsepower, would it make around 370 or is that just the injector number?
 
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:05 PM
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Wont get up that high but the will help. You have about 100HP hiding in that pump w/o spending a dime.
 
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:33 PM
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so is it worth any gains with injectors. i mean after pump turned up will i gain much with injectors, or are they like a package deal have to have both to get full benefit? thanks gobs for the help
 
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:26 PM
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370's on a stock pump are worth a boost, 370's on a pump that has been turned up is also worth a boost. You could get the injectors and leave te pump stock and feel a difference. Then when you want to crank the pump up you will feel a HUGE difference. Injectors are deffinatly worth the money. And I'm sure your stockers a VERY worn out any way.
 
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:40 PM
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I'll second that your injectors are probably close to shot. Pulled mine out recently at 200k and they were AWFUL. I put some 370's in and have been really happy with them. my g/f gets a kick out of how much more I enjoy my truck with injectors on my turned up pump.

since you're gonna be towing a bit, you might want to look into doing just an exhaust housing on the turbo, will help it spool a LOT better.

oh yeah and an EGT gauge before you inadvertently melt you pistons down
 
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:02 AM
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yea definately looking at a tbo more than likely hx 40 or hx 35 something that will actually spool before your already up to speed. thinking about swapping to a nv4500 if i can come across one with money in my pocket i dont think a 400k tranny can take any turning up
 
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