1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old 03-26-2009, 10:22 PM
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alright so heres what my truck is doing. it runs great when it is cold for the first 10 min. maximum. then it strats to lose power and sputter like it is running out of fuel or maybe getting too much fuel. it also blows a load of white smoke. i changed the lift pump, the electric inline pump, and the filter. that did absolutely nothing. could it possibly be a bad injector.
 

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Old 03-26-2009, 10:48 PM
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I'll bet you have a fuel leak. sounds like air is getting in teh system somewere. How do your fuel lines look?
 
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:28 PM
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they all look pretty good from what i could see. it would probably be pretty hard to tell thought since it is sucking air it wont be leaking any fuel

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if i do have a hole in a line it would have to be before the lift pump to suck air right?
 

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Old 03-27-2009, 03:53 PM
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It would be up by the tank or down by the lift pump. Do you have a Fuel pressure gauge?
 
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Old 03-27-2009, 03:54 PM
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no i dont
 
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Old 03-28-2009, 01:04 AM
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This is an instance where a fuel pressure gauge would be very, very valuable. I'd install one just for this diagnosis.

I had very similar problems, and it was a multi-monthlong nightmare that sucked lots of hours and money. If I had a fuel pressure gauge and a sightglass going into the injection pump, the diagnosis would've taken an hour tops.

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Ultimately, I found out it was my injection pump. I don't know what inside the injection pump causes the problems, but they went away only after I replaced the pump.

Otherwise, I chased imaginary gremlins all the way from the tank sender, replaced all my fuel line, replaced my lift pump, replaced my filter O-rings, and racked up so many tows that AAA stopped towing me.

If you see no bubbles in the sight glass going to the IP, good fuel pressure at the IP, and it's an intermittent problem only manifesting when warm, then it damns the IP.

I don't think it's something as simple as a seal leaking air in the IP either, I think it's head, rotor or sleeve wear preventing fuel from pressurizing properly after the fuel gets thin and the heat warps the pumping components slightly.

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I asked a pump guy and he said that my problem, and what can possibly be your problem, isn't a worn pressurizing component, but a wearing or broken return spring.
 

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Old 03-28-2009, 04:08 AM
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broken return spring is a common problem on these truck, especially when they are cranked up to the max.....
 
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:32 PM
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so basically what you are saying is i need to look for a new injection pump.
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:10 PM
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alright i dropped my tank and changed the screen on the pickup tube, i replaced the line from the tank to the lift pump and i put another new fuel filter on it. i just put a new lift pump and electric inline pump on it a week ago but i still have the same problem only ten times worse. what do i do!!!
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:08 AM
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i finally got it fixed
 


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