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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Can you put 2nd gen. injectors in a first gen.? Will you need adapters it and would need to pump the supply system with a holley, fass, airdog or something?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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You can use 2nd gen injectors. The non-IC engines need adaptors. Put a Piston lift pump from a 2nd gen 12v and you should have enough fuel supply to the little VE pump.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Alright..getting more Ideas now for once I start working now again.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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No you cannot use 2nd gen injectors, they have a different spray pattern. They will bolt it, but won't run correctly, also I don't think the fuel lines are the same either. The non-ic'd injectors are 9mm tips versus the IC'd 7mm tips, so you need an adapter to run any after market 1st gen injector in a non-ic'd truck. New era 370s, 435s, DDPs, PoDs... all after markets are 7mm tips.

Here is a PoD injector with the adapter, the adapter is the little brass spacer.



Without the adapter on.



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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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The pop pressure is too high on 2nd gens too. You'll ruin the pump.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GO OVRIT
The pop pressure is too high on 2nd gens too. You'll ruin the pump.
opp's... Thought you had 2nd gen injectors mike...
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS
opp's... Thought you had 2nd gen injectors mike...
They make a lot of the same sizes in first and second gen injectors, its kind of confusing sometimes, especially when people don't specify what they are talking about. Like the marine 370s (second gen) and the New Era 370's (first gen). A lot of people just say 370s

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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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i have the new style 370's that fits in my first gen but after instaliing them it wont start now any ideas? they are all getting fuel, and im out of ideas
 
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