1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 01:29 AM
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I pretty much fixed or figured out most of the issues from my previous thread. Got off of work and walkin towards the truck i noticed a decent sized dark spot underneath thr radiator. Turns out to be diesel fuel. Drove it home 10mins since i didnt have a flash light. Got home and popped the hood. The vent tube on the ip was wet so figured my little seal inside caused the leak. Looked over and noticed the block was wet around the lift pump but not above. Got underneath to get a better look and i heard a distinct knock that i couldnt hear up top. Sounded like it was coming from the rear of the engine. Varied with rpms. If i looked straight at the oil pan i couldnt really hear it but if i turned my ear toward it i could easily hear it. Ill try and load up a vid tmrw.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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Wow. Does not sound good to me.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/67030140@N03/8187991389/ this is after the truck had sat for 30mins. when i rev it the camera is placed directly under the drain plug of the oil pan.

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i also noticed this morning when i started the truck it had a small amount of white smoke coming out the exhaust at idle. after 10 mins i revved it up and there was a white haze.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67030140@N03/8189108420/ here is the cold start this morning

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anybody have any idea?
 

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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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I'm not an expert but it sounds like you have a fuel line going or gone. White smoke is a good indicator of air in the fuel system and it would make your engine run rougher. You'll also start drinking the fuel. Check all your lines physically, don't just look at them, make sure they're secure/not broken and go from there. By the time you get fuel everywhere it can be difficult to backtrack the leak. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 01:10 AM
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Would a leaky injection pump fuel needle gasket cause this?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Replace your fuel lines and go ahead and replace all the gaskets and seals and then see what happens.

If you do it one by one then when you find it you can fix it quick!

I would go with a leak detector aka squeegee bottle with soap and water and hunt around first and find its point if origin.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:06 AM
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Would i need to bleed the injectors if i changed the fuel fiter and didnt fill the new filter with fuel cuz i was so in a hurry for work and didn't have any besides what little didnt leak out of the old filter

Its doesnt white smoke much at all. I think what i saw that morning was just from the cold. But something is a miss. I only got 11.68 mpgs out of my last tank of fuel

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Which fuel lines are y'all refering to?
 

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Prolly check all the fuel lines, the air should have worked its way out of the injector lines by now, but you may try opening up each one just in case, and retightening them one at a time. Sometimes the gasket at the top of the fuel heater leaks and sometimes you will end up with a double gasket on the fuel filter if you don't take the old one off the middle around the threads off before putting the new one on. LOL
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Fuel heater is deleted and old gasket removed
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Hmmm this one is gonna be hard to find, does it leak more running or does it slow drip when it's off?
 
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