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Old 02-02-2012, 12:20 PM
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I have read many a discussion on aftermarket fuel plates for 2nd gen 12valves. What has not been addressed is the difference between the ones available.

For example...........the #10 plate. I have found them from $30 up to $250. What is the difference in these. They all claim they are made from hard steel etc.
Are they essentially the same?

Which one should I buy?

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Old 02-02-2012, 01:46 PM
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Get the $30 ebay plates, they are just fine. I have had a couple and no problems. Anything over $35 for a fuel plate is a rip off.

Or grind your own.
 
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good advice
 
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:06 PM
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Unless you've had plenty of practice I would not recommend running a fuel plate you've ground yourself. Buy a 25 dollar fuel plate off ebay

#10 is the "middle of the road" plate.
Nice gains in HP and TQ without over-fueling.
If you grind your own fuel plate you need to know what you are doing!
Your fueling will be completely off unless you have a plate to use as reference.
 
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Do you even need to really use a fuel plate? Just curious
 
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To properly tune your truck the plate is required.
I grind my own plates all the time but I consider myself to have some basic knowledge of pump operation.

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Colton Carter
Do you even need to really use a fuel plate? Just curious
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Originally Posted by mysterync
To properly tune your truck the plate is required.
I grind my own plates all the time but I consider myself to have some basic knowledge of pump operation.

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I disagree, a plate is not needed to properly tune a truck. It can all be done with the afc.
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:34 AM
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We will agree to disagree. The afc can only tune preboost fuel. To properly tune the truck for optimum fuel economy, and power a plate is required.
How can you even begin to justify that its not?
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:07 PM
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the afc can do more than just preboost, it can also act as a fuel stop ... just like your fuel plates. All you need to do is limit the travel of the arm and it can be done for free just need a little tinker time. For economy and power its the afc that makes all the difference.
 
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I disagree. Bosch spent millions engineering the P series. I don't feel you can recreate the same results that simply. You will take a hit with low end control or upper end fueling. The afc was designed to move out of the way under boost and allow the plate to govern arm travel. The afc will move toward so quickly you have no bottom end fuel control, reducing efficiency, creating a massive cloud of smoke. You can slide the afc back and modify it but them it limits top end. Regardless of how you tune it at some point your foot controls the fueling all on its own. Maybe you've read some forums and made assumptions according to what others have said, I challenge you to research the true operation of the pump and make dyno runs and emission test... you'll see the plate is there for a reason.
Secondly, I don't tune my customers trucks like im a broke teenager. I tune them correctly and shoot for the absolute best driveability and efficiency possible. Disagree if you wish but pump operation, physics and common sense win everytime.

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