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12 VALVE HEAD BOLT TORQUE

Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Question 12 VALVE HEAD BOLT TORQUE

Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any detailed threads on re-torquing the 12 valve head bolts down to handle more boost which I'm looking into as I build up the engine a little.

Here's a good article I read online from diesel power mags you can read here on torquing the bolts down. They give 2 methods of doing it and warn the reader of torquing the bolts down more than 120 ft-lbs.

The article states the Factory Cummins torque spec is around 115 ft-lbs.
However - my Chilton manual gives the stock torque spec as
66 ft-lbs +1/4 turn for the short head bolts and 90 ft-lbs +1/4 for the long head bolts.
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My Question: Does anyone else have experience with this? What's the true factory specs and what specs can you push the stock bolts too?

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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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I've always replaced the head bolts cause all ur gunna wind up doing is streaching them or break them. I just pulled the head off mine cause of to much boost. I'm going back with head studs and a better head gasket. Stock bolts and gasket are designed for no more than 42psi I think
 
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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i would pull one and measure it to make sure it is not stretched already. then i would re torque them to 150 if there not stretched.... or just get some studs
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 12:49 AM
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How much timing and boost do you want to run?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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@ Pyro690

40 psi
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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diesel power mag a few months back there is a truck built maximum diesel thats rund 600hp on twins and runs 11's with re-torqued stock head bolts torqued to 150 lbs. not saying i recommend this. just couldnt believe it when i was reading it.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by monster12valve
diesel power mag a few months back there is a truck built maximum diesel thats rund 600hp on twins and runs 11's with re-torqued stock head bolts torqued to 150 lbs. not saying i recommend this. just couldnt believe it when i was reading it.
...and it probably blew the headgasket the next time they started it.. haha.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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The 98 FSM says to torque all bolts to 66, then torque only the long ones to 89, and then an additional 90* on all.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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I would re torque to 130 if they will hold and if you can get more, go for it.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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i use fel-pro head gasket print-o-seal
set torque at 100
run 35 lbs boost
in 5yrs i have blown 1 gasket
i dont see how you can run studs in the back of motor due to room the only way i can get pushrods in on #6 is to remove crossmember and let tranny hit the ground
still have to fight to get them in
 
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