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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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ya i got it back together and still running the same so i guess the pump is bad not lift pump
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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I was still getting air after changing the lp, I came to the conclusion that one of my steel lines was bad, it wasn't leaking fuel but was letting air in. I installed a draw straw and diesel approved rubber hose all the way from the tank to the lp. Solved my problem. You could have a weak ofv also, do you have a fp guage?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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no i dont have a fp gauge is the ofv the one on the ppump?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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It's the bango bolt on the return line coming out of the IP if it's bad it's just relieving the pressure back to the fuel tank. From what I have read P pumps don't go bad very often, but anything can happen.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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ya idk it starts easy but it runs funny when idle and when i put it in drive it idle down like it wants to die and when driving it sounds like a helicopter idk if its a miss or what
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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idk why but i have noticed this problem a lot more with automatics. mine used to die at idle so i started replacing things. Fuel filter and prefilter changed and no change. bumped up my idle still nothing. just so happened a set of unwanted stock injectors from a 96 manual fell in my lap so i put those in and everything has been perfect since. i dont remember any kind of helicopter noises though. i would inspect every fuel line and definatly your ofv as well. mabey timing. many things could be wrong. first step would be to know your fuel pressure.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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After considering the different approaches I decided to go for the straight shot - from the side. After taking off the inner fender shroud I used a metal blade on a sawzall and made a single horizontal cut of about 4" in length after which I was able to bend the lower part of the inner fender out of the way. This gave a clear shot to the LP which made the swap a breeze. While I was at it I cleaned out the pre-filter and removed the heater element which seemed like it may have been leaking.

The only difficulty was in getting the mounting bolts re-threaded so I decided to put studs in the block and then just assembled the unit hanging on them. They are 8 mm x 1.25.

The inner fender folded right back in place and after a touch of some primer seems no worse for the wear. Included is a picture of the access.

The truck fired right up and runs like a champ. Thanks for everyone's tips and I hope this helps someone else. This site is GREAT!

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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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so how many miles did that LP last you before you replaced it? (ktfroy)
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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