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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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i knew there was something about the pressure per square inch but i couldnt think about it the right way.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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So why is the 12.25" rated at 550hp and the 13" rated at 600hp? Just curious



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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lukesdiesel
So why is the 12.25" rated at 550hp and the 13" rated at 600hp? Just curious



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Luke, it is simple. If we were able to put a larger clutch in your bell housing, room permitted which it is not, the torque rating of the clutch would go up. A Chevy Sprint has a 6 1/2" clutch in it with about 2000 lbs of clamp load. Put that sucker in your mighty diesel and see if you can take off in fist gear. You can think of it this way. Lets take a clutch with a 13" outside diameter and a 10" inside diameter with an applied pressure of lets say 3000 lbs. If we cut away in sections the friction material, outside to inside, every inch leaving an inch of material cutting away the other, we will obviously gain pounds per square inch do to lack of material. This is why semis use button clutches, less friction material more pounds per square inch. Now lets take it to a mathematic equation. What we have learned as I stated above is the equation of "means". Lets move the inside diameter out (friction area) and create the friction area more toward the outside of the applied pressure very similar to a torque converter and you are able to not only create more pounds per square inch but enhance the "means" of the clutch to create more torque. Actually, after rereading your question you answered yourself. I thought you were the guy that I quoted in my other post.

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By the way, we do not rate our clutches at these ratings. Maybe our competitors do and all i can say is buy them and see what they will do. It is our findings that a ceramic button single disc clutch will hold but be miserable for the driver and be short lived do to the grooving of the castings. Been there, done that, and the consumer said NO!

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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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You couldnt ask for a better answers than that...I guess 30 years in the biz counts for something...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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damn i new something was up bigger is always better
 
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 04:17 AM
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My question was actually directed towards 1SlowCTD...... I was trying to figure out how a 12.25" clutch would be rated lower than the 13" clutch if the 12.25" clutch has better holding power.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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im wondering the same thing luke, when i was looking into clutches that was the only thing i was looking for and the 6 speed, 13" full ceramic conversion with the hd hub upgrade was the biggest baddest single produced acording to southbend and valair
 
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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thats my opinion
 
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