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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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ok here it is, 96 ctd 4x4, new tranny upgraded steel planets, extra clutches added to fill out each pack, shift kit in valve body, low stall 4 disc converter w/billett front cover,
now for the problems, when ideling thru parking lots the tranny will jump between 1st and
2nd gear at less than 10 mph, and when you step on it it will take off fine w/ up to 35 psi of boost and shifts thru the gears at the rite speeds, but at about 35 mph the boost falls off and the tranny quits pulling hard untill the converter locks at about 52 mph, and then you can really feel it pull again when you step on it, i have replaced the tv cable and adjusted it a hundred times, still no results, could it be a bad shift kit or is it needing a pressure adjustment some where due to the upgraded converter w/ the lower stall????/


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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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sounds like you need a VBA (Valve Body Assistant) Dave at Goerend Transmission Incorporated sells them i think, i know he supplies them with any V/B or tranny he sells.

it seems your gov pressure is higher than stock so it is shifting sooner thinking the truck is going faster. our trucks shift off of speed normally. when you put in the shift kit you now have more fluid pressure and the tranny senses it. give Dave a call, make sure you have time to listen cause he likes talking alot. real good man though
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:35 AM
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will be calling him today....
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Mine did a similar thing about the 35 mph issue at about 35-45 it became a slug till the TC locked. A 4K GSK helped it out a lot. What im thinking is your trans is still working your just out of fuel.

Who made the trans? I can second the VBA when my trans was installed the vba didn’t go in and it would go into limp mode. Call Dave He will get you setup even if it isn’t his trans if you don’t need a vba he isn’t going to sell you one but he will spend hours helping you diagnose your problem.

 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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I was going to say defueling too thats what mine is doing too and I am bumping my timing as we speak and when I get it back i am putting my 4k springs in. I will let you know if thats the problem.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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talked to dave today he seems to think that i possibly have too high of a stall or the fuel problem, allthough i do have a 100 plate i made, set rite now about just foward of stock position. was gonna move it all the way foward this weekend and gotta buy a 4k spring kit, who has a good price on 4k springs???
 
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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If you haven’t gotten them yet make a post in our price quote for venders section. That’s how I got mine and I got a heck of a deal
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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got em thru one of our vendors here and got 3&4k springsfor one low price,
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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the stuttering 1-2 shift is due to a failing GPS (governor pressure solenoid), the reason the 4k gsk helped is due to increased line pressure which comes with added rpm's.


SUBJECT:
48RE Transmission - 1-2 Shift Hunt At Light Throttle
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves the replacement of the governor pressure solenoid valve in the
transmission valve body.
MODELS:
2004 - 2007 (DR/DH/D1) Ram Truck (2500/3500)
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The customer may experience a 1-2 shift transmission hunt during light throttle application.
This condition may be due to a governor pressure solenoid valve.
DIAGNOSIS:
If the customer experiences the above condition perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
1 04617210 Valve, Governor Pressure Solenoid
4 05013457AA ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid
AR 02464324AC Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan (Note: Original pan
gasket is reusable and should not require
replacement).
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Raise the vehicle on a suitable lift. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position.
Remove the ignition key from the ignition switch.
2. Remove the transmission fluid (oil) pan and pan gasket. Clean and save the pan
gasket for later use during reassembly.
3. Disengage the wire connector to the governor pressure solenoid valve (Fig. 1).
4. Remove the screws used to secure the governor pressure solenoid valve retainer to
the transmission valve body.
5. Remove the old governor pressure solenoid valve from the transmission valve body.
6. Clean the transmission housing and oil pan gasket surfaces.
7. Lubricate the o-rings on the new governor pressure solenoid valve.
8. Align the governor pressure solenoid valve to the bore in the valve body.
9. Install the governor pressure solenoid valve to the valve body.
NUMBER: 21-009-07
GROUP: Transmission
DATE: May 24, 2007
10. Install the governor pressure solenoid valve retainer and attaching screws to the valve
body.
11. Connect the wire connector to the governor pressure solenoid valve.
12. Install the transmission fluid (oil) pan and pan gasket (saved earlier) to the
transmission. Tighten attaching bolts to 13.6 Nm (125 in. lbs.).
Fig. 1 Governor Solenoid And Pressure Sensor
1 - GOVERNOR PRESSURE SENSOR
2 - GOVERNOR PRESSURE SOLENOID VALVE
3 - ELECTRONIC GOVERNOR
13. Lower vehicle.
14. Add automatic transmission fluid to the transmission.
15. Verify correct transmission fluid level.

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btw, this is also the same for the 47re
 

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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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yup got new pressure and govenor solinoids but all have to wait till i get back from a cat gas 1 class next week, thanks though
 
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