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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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Hello everyone new to forum, I have 96 ram 3500 diesel I got it in 1998 it's been a great truck only problem I ever had was the last gear went out its a stick. But any how it just started to not want to start sometimes when turn key I get nothing no click nothing so I just keep turning key about 4 or 5 times an it's starts right up battery's are good? Anyone ever have this happen??
 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 03:33 PM
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Time to replace your starter.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 05:11 PM
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I've had a bad ground do that too. Check your cables.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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Thanks guys will check ground first..
 
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Well checked ground and made sure battery was fully charged! No changes... Is There only one type of starter this truck? If not what is the best? They range for $ 90.00 to almost $300.00 on eBay?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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There are many brands of starters available, but I just went to Bond for mine. Wasn't too expensive. I would go on the vendor section and see what they have to offer. Its a very easy job to replace it.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 12:14 PM
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The internal contacts of starter have worn to point that grooves have been ground into the copper. You can replace the contacts but chances are the starter is worn to point replacement would be best. Sure, there's 2000 rebuilders, but starters are all Nippendenso.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Ok thanks.. I looked on eBay they have a new start brand (gladiator) part number 22800-2291 19n sr6519x sr6519n for $86.00 with warenty .. Autozone is $214.00 lifetime? Would the gladiator work?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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By the part #s listed, it's still a Nippendenso and that's way too cheap, never heard of Gladiator. Spend the cash for the AZ unit, that way they're local in case of future problems and no questions asked. It takes years for the contacts to wear like yours and you don't want to wait days for replacement due to other part failure that they did not replace. And by the way, 17 degrees is a tad too much timing. You're asking for cracked pistons, rings, head, or turbo problems. I time manual trans apps to 15 max and automatics to 16.5 max. Depends on other mods. 17 wont kill anything, but EGTs are running high for sure.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 04:42 AM
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I must have missed the place where he talked about his timing. Regardless, my EGTs went down with more timing, not up. And that was sort of half the point. Sure you don't mean drive pressure?

I have heard of Gladiator, and would avoid it. Any local parts store will have a starter that will give you years of use under normal conditions for a reasonable price. I've been through two starters in well over a third of a million miles, both replacements were cheap NAPA units and one of those died because I ignored a fuel leak that saturated it for too long, not because it wore out despite starting the truck anywhere from 10-50 times a day. Point is, there's no reason to buy a starter on the internet and a handful of reasons not to. Local store, local warranty, and it's hard to go wrong.
 
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