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Old 06-29-2013, 11:14 PM
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DTC code p0266 and p0284 was having rough start cold and bogging out in top gear. i kept on saying I was going to order some rev-x to drop in, but because you have order this stuff in kept on forgetting to order it.

Hey guys back again last year it was the "no start hot" problem we couldn't get it figured out so I gave in and brought it to the stealership (3 injectors), but right after I did that, i found out I could have have probably fixed it with rev-x.

This time I did an oil changed at 8000 km and it had just started hard cold start issue, then soon after got those codes, so for this oil change I had some old Muscle MT-10 fuel treatment
and within 100 km the codes went away and the cold start problem was gone, But came back after 2000 km. Mt-10 treats the metal not the oil, so i was talking to the guys from archoil said that's why the issues and the codes came back and that Archoil treats the oil. He was pretty confident that the archoil would solve the problem.

To make a long story short, it stalled on me when I was leaving my shop and I have been unable to start it since, hot or cold.

I just want to get it started to see if the Archoil will actually help.

I hope some out there can help me, start her up.

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Old 06-30-2013, 03:29 PM
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It would realy help to have this truck scanned to see what is goin on with it, generally if it stalls it isn't a good thing. First thing I would try is to just unplug the ICP sensor and see if it fires up, a bad,shorted, ICP can cause a no start and stalling. next check your low pressure oil, pull the oil filter and then hold down the little plunger in bottom of housing and crank it over to see if the oil fills the housing, next would be to pull the IPR valve and check the screen to mke sure it is not clogged or torn.
 
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bobfbigman
It would realy help to have this truck scanned to see what is goin on with it, generally if it stalls it isn't a good thing. First thing I would try is to just unplug the ICP sensor and see if it fires up, a bad,shorted, ICP can cause a no start and stalling. next check your low pressure oil, pull the oil filter and then hold down the little plunger in bottom of housing and crank it over to see if the oil fills the housing, next would be to pull the IPR valve and check the screen to mke sure it is not clogged or torn.
Ok thanks bobfbigman I will try tomorrow morning.

Is stalling more commonly caused on the fuel side or the oil side? And because the engine was gradually getting rougher is it possible that the stiction could get so bad, that it caused the engine to stall and then not start and can a short ICP cause the injectors to show those codes.

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It would realy help to have this truck scanned to see what is goin on with it, generally if it stalls it isn't a good thing. First thing I would try is to just unplug the ICP sensor and see if it fires up, a bad,shorted, ICP can cause a no start and stalling. next check your low pressure oil, pull the oil filter and then hold down the little plunger in bottom of housing and crank it over to see if the oil fills the housing, next would be to pull the IPR valve and check the screen to mke sure it is not clogged or torn.
one more question before my truck stalled i was experiencing alot of bogging when i pressed on the gas pedal and it wouldn't stop until it shifted down. does this shed anymore light on the situation.
 

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Old 07-01-2013, 08:32 PM
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bogging can sometimes be fuel filters are clogged, but it will normally start and idle ok. sounds more like a high pressure oil leak, do you have anyway to do a air test on it?
 
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:14 PM
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I had similar issues, mine was bogging on the freeway to work for several mornings, then got to work 30 min later got in and got the crank no start. Didnt have the means to do proper tests and knew i would like to have all parts updated, I did a reman hoop with new ipr and stc (my ipr did have very small hole in screen). new dummy/stand pipe plugs, new turbo drain pipe, and o ring set for injectors and blue spring. Got it all in and it runs great now. I had in the weeks prior installed new erg and oil cooler and added a coolant filter too. pretty certain my hpop was bad so maybe the same for you? If it helps I found a reman hpop with the ipr valve and updated stc from fordieseils.com for super cheap and has 2 year warranty, their price was cheaper for all three parts than i saw just an hpop by itself, so if that helps you any. good luck.
 
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boliver kegnails
I had similar issues, mine was bogging on the freeway to work for several mornings, then got to work 30 min later got in and got the crank no start. Didnt have the means to do proper tests and knew i would like to have all parts updated, I did a reman hoop with new ipr and stc (my ipr did have very small hole in screen). new dummy/stand pipe plugs, new turbo drain pipe, and o ring set for injectors and blue spring. Got it all in and it runs great now. I had in the weeks prior installed new erg and oil cooler and added a coolant filter too. pretty certain my hpop was bad so maybe the same for you? If it helps I found a reman hpop with the ipr valve and updated stc from fordieseils.com for super cheap and has 2 year warranty, their price was cheaper for all three parts than i saw just an hpop by itself, so if that helps you any. good luck.
Thanks I'm hoping its a hole in my IPR sensor mesh too and not the pump.
 
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bobfbigman
bogging can sometimes be fuel filters are clogged, but it will normally start and idle ok. sounds more like a high pressure oil leak, do you have anyway to do a air test on it?
Hi bobfbigman,

I finally got a chance to work on my truck this weekend. This is what i have done so far.

1. Disconnected the ICP still didn't start.

2.Changed both fuel filters the were really bad but still no start.(pics attached)

3. Did the air test could hear a leak but not sure because I dont have a garage and my street is pretty busy and I could do the IPR battery connection thing, cause I could reach, so not sure.

4. Bought a SCAN Gauge II. Scanning Sync, Ficm, ICP and IPR on start-up.

These are my readings.

Turning over with ICP connected.

ICP: 200-320 psi
IPr: 84.8
Ficm: 47.5
Sync: 1

Turning over with ICP Dis-connected.
Not sure if these reading are false.
ICP: 730-1000 psi
IPr: 76.7
Ficm: 46.5
Sync: 1

Been looking on line it seems like these results are pointing to a hole in the IPR mesh (I Hope).

I got the special tool to remove the ipr but its like ceased up , it won't budge and I don't want to go to hard and break it. Plus I can't take off the main shield cause its mounted to the engine below the turbo.


Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
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The IPR will come out pretty easy once you pop it loose. If the screen is good then it could be the STC fitting if that hasn't been replaced yet, they usually give a hot no start at first then go down hill from there, they can also "just fail" and stall out and not restart. Again, check the IPR first.
 
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bobfbigman
The IPR will come out pretty easy once you pop it loose. If the screen is good then it could be the STC fitting if that hasn't been replaced yet, they usually give a hot no start at first then go down hill from there, they can also "just fail" and stall out and not restart. Again, check the IPR first.
Yeah I did the STC fitting last year is there a chance they were bad ones and failed early and I'm going to try taking out the IPR again tonight.

thanks bobfbigman.
 
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bobfbigman
The IPR will come out pretty easy once you pop it loose. If the screen is good then it could be the STC fitting if that hasn't been replaced yet, they usually give a hot no start at first then go down hill from there, they can also "just fail" and stall out and not restart. Again, check the IPR first.
hey bobfbigman, I finally got the IPR out and the mesh was ripped in 2 places. I thought I was finally getting somewhere, so I used brake cleaner to clean it out super thoroughly put everything back together and tried to start it. Now the ICP would not even go over 100 psi while cranking. I have no idea what to do now. What do u think should do next.

Thanks
 
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