Mud Countrys or Xtreme a/t's?
 

well its time for new tires. Ive got it narrowed down to either the Dick Cepek mud countrys or the Pro Comp xtreme a/t's. I mostly do pavment/gravel roads and muddy construction sites hauling my 6000 lb work trailer. but enjoy getting out on the trail every so often. I live in michigan and we get alot of snow and ice on the roads. Curious to know if anyone has run either of these tires and what your thoughts are on them. I have a set of 35x12.5x20 Interco Vortracs on now and they just plain suck at everything! I purchased the truck used with 32000 mi on it so Im guessing that the Vortracs have 32000 or less on them they have some tread life left on them but they dont even grip good on dry pavement. I just want to get as much info as I can on these tires before dropping a big amount of $$$ on a new set.

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heres links for both tires.

Pro Comp:Pro Comp Xtreme All Terrain Radial


Dick Cepek:Dick Cepek Tires & Wheels

btw I have a 07 Dodge Ram 3500 mega cab srw with a 6" rev Tek suspension lift.

Just by looking at the information on line, I would run the Pro Comps. They have a higher load rating, and the tread pattern look like it would give a quieter ride.:c:

thanks for the quick reply! yeah I like the 40,000 mile warranty on the pro comps, but some of the reviews I've read on them were mixed. something about a recall on some of their tires due to side wall blow-outs. that may have been on the old a/t's though? all the reviews I read up on the mud countrys were positive. the pro comps are a directional tire, so does that mean you have to take them off the wheels and flip em to rotate them correctly?

Either that or just move them front to back.
Ever thought about Goodyear Wrangle DuraTrac's?
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I think I'm going to try them onc my Silent Armor's are worn down.

Yeah I have seen the new dura tracs. Looks like they would be very quite and good in the snow.I was considering this tire before I saw the pro comps. The 325/60/20LT (35.6x13x20)at 3750 lbs has the highest load rating as well.the pro comps only had a 3300 lb rating and were E's so I'm guessing the goodyears are E's as well. Well I think that the goodyears are at the top of the list now. They are the best suited for my type of driving and road conditions we get around here. I would hands down get the dick cepeks if I did more offroading they are an awesome tire but just arnt as well suited for pavement and towing.Plus the softer rubber means new tires a lot sooner.thanks for the input RAWilliams.:tu:

I would look at the dick cepek FCIIs also. I have heard a lot of good things about them. I havent heard anything about how a heavier truck handles them though. The duratracs are pretty awesome. One of my buddies has them on his 01 24V 2500 and they eat anything you put in their path. The xtreme ats are decent tires. Once they are worn down to like half tread though they are pretty slick in most conditions.

Thanks for the input 5.9. Anyone else running dura tracs? Let us know how they are!

check out the mud countrys.they have a cross over sidewall that only mud country and mickey thompson mtz have.Theres a video on you tube for 4wheelparts with stacey david from gearz talking about them and theyre really cheap on tirerack.com:tu:

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heres the link these are the mickey thompsons,but skip to the end for the cross over sidewall cord demo.the cepeks are the same

Thanks for the info smoking ram. That video gives some good info. So Dick Cepeks are Made by Mickey Thompson? Didn't know that! I hear that the Mickey Thompsons/Dick Cepeks have a softer rubber compound for true off-road performance and probably wouldn't last so long on a 3500 megacab? Seeing that f-150 tearing through the corners is cool, I would like to see them do that on wet pavement with a diesel on some Michigan roads that are full of potholes that eat small cars for a snack lol! Well it looks like all 3 of the tires im thinking of purchasing are pretty darn good

The sidewall blowouts involved the original A/T's when they were first introduced.

I'm running the X-A/T's right now. Got 32,000 miles on them and I'm guessing there's another 15,000 on 'em still, but I'm really anal about rotating them. They do well in just about everything except thick mud. They may bite just a bit harder in mud compared to a regular A/T, but they ain't no mudder! They have a slight howl going down the road as they wear but nothing at all intrusive.

Good to know. All this research I've been doing and I ran across the Cooper stt and st/c with armor tel/3 sidewalls anyone know anything about these tires? I saw a f-150 crew cab the other day with the st/c's and those tires looked like some bfg at's on steroids! Really mean looking! I think having the strongest sidewall possible on our heavy diesel trucks is very important. Anyone know anything about these coopers?:humm:

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Sorry for all the questions about everything! At 300+ bucks a tire,for 35's on 20's I'm just trying to get the best performance/durability that I can get and not have a crap tire out on the trail! Here in Michigan we get just about anything/everything a truck and tire can have thrown at it. Sand, mud, rock, logging/seasonal roads snow up to your bumpers and ice thick enough to play hockey on the roads. All on the same road:scare2:

The Stt and St/c tires you mentioned I have actually looked at purchasin myself. I talked to a few oil field guys, and they said they run the st/c tires for all of their trucks. They use and abuse tires all day everyday. If I would have had some more money at the time I would have bought those or the Stt tires. I have only talked to one guy about the Stts. He had a set of 35 or 37s on a lifted bronco. He used that as his do all rig. Tow, rock crawl, muddin, and daily driving. He said he loved those tires and were the longest lasting tires he has used so far for what he does. They look pretty wicked too.
Another tire very similar to the st/c is a mastercraft ct. Looks exactly like the st/c but with the lugs turned 90 degrees. I got a price quote from a guy on here, PERFORMANCETRUCK. He gave me a pretty good quote, but I found some different tires for a little more locally. You might also just go read reviews on random tire sights for some more info.

Mastercraft tires are made by Cooper. And Cooper makes a damn good tire. Period. You won't go wrong with either.

oh sorry i dont think theyre made by mickey thompson but the are the same technology as the mickey thompsons they just didnt show a demonstration for the dick cepeks.i think cepeks been around longer than mickey

I cant remember which one owns the other but they are owned by the same company. Mickey Thompson and Dick Cepek that is

oh i didnt know that

mickey thompson owns dick cepek

id recommend the dick cepek mudcountry as long as ya dont mind the noise,if ya want a quieter ride the pro comp xtreme a/t would still do good

The thing to remember about the Xtreme A/T is they are a directional tire, which means they can only be "rotated" front to back and not crossed like a conventional rotation. Not a big deal though as I've done the front to back thing every 4000 miles and they've been wearing great.

Another thing to consider is your fuel mileage will drop more with a mudder than with an all terrain of the same size. The more aggressive the tread, the bigger the hit in fuel mileage due to rolling resistance.

i had the mud countrys on my ford. hated em. yes, they handled great on the road, wet or dry. but off road i was not to happy with the preformance. tore up easy on rocks, and werent great in mud or snow either.

also i only got about 10000 miles out of them. but i have a full spool in the rear. i will never get them again.

Mud Countrys or Xtreme a/t's?
 

I know it's not in your list, but I love my toyo m/t's they last as long or longer than any a/t that I have tried. They are not cheap, but I don't get stuck very often. I'm in and out of muddy fields all day, drive lots on gravel and pavement, chip seal etc. I'm running the 295/70/17's. Not bad for noise either.....

Thanks for all of the good posts guys! I would like to get some more info on Cooper stc's but Im having trouble finding any good info on them at the Cooper web site Like load rating, sizes made, sidewall plys. Anyone know about em? Or where good specs are for them?