Will This Combo Work???
 

looking at buying a 4.5" kit for my truck. Will 38s fit on a 4.5" truck with a 16x10 wheel?

I am not that familiar with Dodge but I doubt it. I have 6-8" set at 7 and my 35's rub, Crawler has a 4 inch lift on his truck and his 35's barely fit.

38's definitely will not fit with only a four inch. cumminsfreak just pulled off his 4.5 inch and 35's

What about Cutout flares too then 4.5" might get ya to 37s.

I would think you would need at least 8" to get 38's on it.

38's will fit with a 6" lift if you keep it on the road or barely flex it out. i'd suggest using a 38x12.5 and running an 8" wheel with 4" backaspacing.

as of right now i have yet to see any cut'out flares available for dodge but i haven't looked everywhere.

37x 12.5 will fit no problem.
but 38s would rub.
the 37s will rub if flexed quite a bit.

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theres no cut out flares for 2nd gens
theres nothing to cut in the front

hmmmm, ok, the lift cummins freak is selling will more than likely be going to me, but he already sold the wheels/tires

does anyone know anything i can do to the lift or anything i can add to it for another 1 or 2" of lift beyond the advertised 4.5"?

Put a 2 1/2" leveling spacer on top of the new springs.

good idea, and then get another 2" add a leaf for the rear

Yes sir that should work perfect. I have been thinking about getting the leveling coils to go with the spacers I think it would be cheaper since I already have the spacers.

I didnt look but what is his rear set up. if he has an AAL than you wont see any liftin the rear except the thickness of the AAL. if he has a full leaf pack then Im not sure you'll be able to do a AAL for the rear and gain 2 inches.
but you may get 1" tops and then you will either be even or 1" higher in the rear.

another thing you can do for the front and its what I did on my 98 is buy som super lift coil bucket spacers. they are meant to correct the dreded "lean" after doing a lift. but I bought 2, welded them in and got 1"

i looked into the rear set up of it and it uses an add a leaf in there somewhere, and i also checked and they have an add a leaf i can buy that will yield me an addtl. 2"

it must be a real shorty. anyone that I know that stacked a AAL didnt yield any thing except really stiff suspension that didnt flex worth a damn

oh, like i said, im not sure of everything that comes in the lift yet but i know it had a add a leaf in there somewhere. Heres a link to the kit im getting

http://www.tuffcountry.com/suspensio...lift-kits.html

the bill of materials say it has a AAL and block. which means you'd have to stack a block and use an AAL. Im not keen on block stacking especially with a vehicle that puts out major torque.
but you could always get a 5"-7" leaf pack from Sky jacker or somone else

se if he'll sell the front box kit.

so basically throw away the AAL and block and get an actual like 5" or something spring pack?

yup

you could get $100 for the AAL and blocks. the leaf packs will cost you. hunt on pavementsucks, theres usually someone on there getting rid of 2nd gen stuff.

ok, well, whats wrong with blocks and a high torque truck........maybe im missing something

well. blocks arent too bad but these are blocks that you stack on top of your stock ones. I have seen quite a few pictures of the after market stack on blocks cracking and disapearing from rear leafs and giving the driver a fun ride. also they shift when used in off road situations.
But the biggest thing especially with a diesel is the twisting of the axle. The blocks go under the leaf pack raising it off the axle more which gives it more lift. but what it really does is create a weaker pivot point. so when you gas it the axle twists but when you have taller blocks it could twist alot more.
I have seen people get away with it no problem but I wouldnt trust it especially with a diesel.

hmmmmmmmmmm.......well this kit will be temporary until i get money for the grand daddy lift kit, the skyjacker 7" long arm. Im not overly concerned about axle wrap though as im stock power wise and dont usually mash on the pedal

Good thing you already plan to go long arms, because using coil spacers on top of 4.5" coils puts a short arm setup at a pretty steep angle. With the arms at that angle they can't move up very well giving you a stiff ride. In the rear, I like keeping a fairly soft spring for ride quality with a set of airbags for when I'm loaded down. I need to build so traction bars though to get rid of the axle rap.

Camotanker has 40s with 22" wheels with a 6" lift..

If your going long arms I would go with the Dickcepek long arms intsead of the SJ. the rest of the SJ kit is fine but it isnt a true long arm kit. unless they finally came out with one.

well put bill. agree 100%. i think you're better off with a spring pack as bill said before and even with a spring pack you might want to consider some good traction bars to keep the rear axle happy.

ok

thanks for the info guys!

no problem. that swhy we are all here

I have 6in superlift and before I installed the 3in bodylift, my 37's would rub the rear of the front fender. could not even get into my driveway without them wanting to tear off the fender. Now with the bodylift, I can clear 40's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well what width tire were ya running....im gonna run a 12.5 width which is the same basically as my 285s

285s are generally narrower than 12.50s. 305s to 315s are pretty equal to 12.50s.

I pretty some makes fiberglass fenders that are flared out big time already

no you remove the freaking stock block and replace it with their block and then add the AAL.