i didnt mean to stir anything up, just thought this is a funny thread because we got somone 20 years older than the other person argueing over stuff...

good entertainment is a must for my reading materials. lol

Not quite sure why you think that you stirred up anything because you never engaged in the topic of discussion. So far Phil has been contributing to the topic of this thread with healthy debate, which is its intended purpose, but you haven't. Yes, there is a difference between argument and debate. Make a contribution to the topic of the thread or don't post.

Let's continue this debate with facts not opinions. Please make no personal attacks and continue to keep it on topic.

So this is currently a 1 on 1 debate between you and phil. Gotcha. If I joined in, it may then transform into a mass debate then?


lol man I crack myself up

As with all threads they are open for debate with whomever wants to be involved. By all means get involved if you have anything to share on the topic. Otherwise, dont make anymore posts.

I did not mean that as a jab or personal attack at you. I find myself rather crazy sometimes. As far as this subject goes I will back down. Rather to keep your mouth closed and let them wonder if you're stupid, then open and remove all doubt.

Alrighty then...

all i have to say is let mr banks get into the real purpose of diesel motors...SLED PULLING, when and if he can ever make a smokeless 1800HP Dmax try to compete with the numerous 1500+HP diesels out there then maybe he will prove something to me. Because all he is proving right now is he knows how to waste money. Im glad he can go fast, now try to actually put his motor to a real test. hook 40-60,000 pounds behind it and see how far he can drag dead weight. Unti lhe does that Gale Banks to me is just a witch doctor.

Anybody can read a book, search the internet, or copy someone else's work for such statements that have been around since the beginning of time. Proverb or plagiarism.
Phil, there is no need to back down on the subject and please continue to post. The thread was started to accomplish exactly what has taken place. If you strongly feel that you shouldn't post thats ok, but if you strongly feel that you should post thats ok too. This thread was started to spark responses on the subject matter and get peoples view points and opinions on what is taking place in the Pro-Street and Pro-Stock diesel community. No problem there, and I appreciate your honesty and willingness to fight for what you believe. BUT, make one more one liner personal attack, especially toward a moderator or admin, and your going to find yourself in trouble. There's no room for that here at DB. We are quite liberal and will let you respond with your view point and opinion on the matter, whether I or anyone else agrees or not, which is completely ok and what the thread was started for to begin with. BUT, resorting to "one liner" personal attacks wont be tolerated toward anybody and especially not the leadership of this site. If you want to continue with your view point and opinion on the matter, without personal attacks, then by all means please do so because this thread will last for several months and be filled with view points and opinions by many others which is welcomed. Just leave the shots across the bow at the door. This also goes for anyone who posts at DB. If there is anyone who wants to resort to personal attacks or belittling of others then there are plenty of other sites out there that will let you do that but we aren't going to condone it here. SO, with that said lets continue on with the debate as it was intended to be, which was to air out the battle between two great diesel power enthusiasts that have greatly contributed to our sport whether either one of them be right or wrong. :c:

Well, that is certainly a matter of opinion because myself as well as many others in diesel motorsports dont care anything about sled pulling. We like to push the edge of speed which Gale has accomplished very well, whether it be top speed or being the quickest diesel powered pick-up. I can pull up one of my Case tractors and outpull any one of those trucks that drag a sled. With the recent breakthroughs in the DMax community in that past year it wont be long before you see an 1800hp Chevrolet in the mix. Who cares who does it but I'm quite certain Gale wont place any weight or focus on it. Sled pulling doesnt make much money but drag racing eventually does. Nothing in life is free.