Getting a new toy next week.....
 

Saiga 12......

Dad is ordering it next friday.....

It will be all stock but eventually I will have it outfitted to look like this one (without the paint job), im getting the shorter 10 round mags instead of the long 12 round ones and im also getting a 20 round drum for it......Should be fun come deer season......:rocking::rocking:

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man that thing is sick. i want one :U:

you do realize that takes 12 gauge rounds right???

Whats that worth?


Since its a 12 guage, its possibly a gun I could own (but I doubt it). Most of the ones you guys post I cant have.

its 550-600 normally with the wood stock and 5 round clip, its esentially a 12 gauge rifle when you buy it, you can get a 18 or 24 inch barrel from what i understand......then add on the skeletized folding stock with pistol grip, the forward grip and the hi-cap mags and you got yourself a killing machine....


Shane its designed and manufactured to be very identical with a AK47, you may want to check but the trigger assembly may take some of their parts, im not sure.....and from what ive heard you guys cant own a AK47 in any form what so ever.....and it is semi automatic only but im sure someone has converted one....


so what exactly are you allowed to own in canada.....sharp sticks and a rock??? or are sharp sticks to dangerous......i apologize for this but that part of canada really sucks the big one.....Alberta needs to become its own country so it can lead a life of normalcy......think they would take california for trade??? id even go as far as letting them have texass so ya'll got somewhere warm to vacation besides cuba....

Shane, they're listed as an "AK variant weapon" which IIRC makes it prohibited in Canada. Sorry, bud. :booo: :argh:

They're manufactured by Izhmash in Russia and imported by RAAC--Russian American Armory Corporation. A few were imported pre-RAAC and the quality was suspect. "Vodka Specials" as they're called...

They are using enough U.S. made parts to be considered "produced here" but if a guy uses too many AK47 components in the conversions he can end up with a rifle containing less than the minimum required component amount and have an illegal weapon in the U.S. as well...

The main conversion is to move the trigger group forward to the standard Kalishnikov AK47 location.

FWIW they never came through RAAC with wood stocks and grips....many of those are AK47 added accessories that are produced offshore and don't count towards the U.S. parts content, although there are people here making them, too.

You can buy all the trigger group parts from Tapco, Tromix, etc and convert one yourself, or get the Tapco pistol grip buttstock and keep the rearward trigger group if you so desire. All the pic rails, muzzle brakes, etc are made here and count towards the U.S. content, as are the high capacity mags.

I have enjoyed my converted and non-converted units immensely.

RAAC also imports the Saiga-20 and Saiga-410 versions.....and a .308 rifle, too.

Prices range from $499-699 new and if you have one converted and modified like in the pictures from one of the major conversion places, expect to spend over $1000 total. If you are at all handy with gunsmith work, or have a friend who is, the trigger conversion is not difficult, just time consuming.

IZHMASH Saiga-12 Shotguns has all the info a guy could ever want for one of these things.

They will cycle just about everything from full power LE slugs to low recoil trap rounds without fail. Just like any AK-variant...they shoot anything, and will do so for a long time.

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Oh, they've already been converted to FA as well. Using the AK select fire trigger groups.

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Well, I tried - sure would love to have one. Maybe I can get one when I come to my senses and move to Montana? Thanks for the info guys.

BTW, we sure the HELL dont want California. Were screwed up enough as it is. Thanks for the offer tho....lol

Shotguns and hunting rifles. (I believe the capacity is 5 or less rounds). Some people have handguns, but with all the rules and hoops (and expense) they make you go through, its just not worth even trying to have a handgun. There are LOTS of people here that hunt ad there are lots of guns around - but there just inst the variety that you guys have.

Yup, it does suck.

and yes, I would love it if Alberta became Texas North. Id be in, in a heatbeat.

Doc, if they will allow you to have a shotgun that 'technically' can hold more than 5 rounds but with a plug can be limited, check out the Benelli M-line.


The M4 is just bad ass.....but the M2 (pump) and M3 (combo pump/semi auto) are pretty neato, too. :U:

Benelli Shotguns | Benelli M4

Sweet :rock: :rock: