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AM1977 01-17-2011 03:18 PM

Without the assistance of electricity
 
Gentlemen,

I have a question for all you hard-core diesel mechanics.

I am wondering what is the latest model of Ford, Dodge, and Chevy diesel truck could function without the assistance of electricity. My experience is extremely limited, however I understand (correctly I hope), that a 1993 Ford with an IDI International, coupled with a mechanical fuel pump and rear pump in tranny to support a roll-start, could work IF augmented by a choke to kill the engine.

I would like to bounce this info, as well as gain knowledge of the Dodge and Chevy.

Also, another issue....what major modifications would need to be done to a newer model diesel to, once again, operate without electricity.

Thanks in advance.
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Whit 01-17-2011 03:38 PM

the 89-93 model Cummins VE pumped truck only need 12volt for the fuel shutoff valve to function

the 94-98 mechanical P-7100 pumped Cummis as well

without electricity any other Cummins wont run

zach_west 01-19-2011 09:26 PM

i didnt have a fuel shutoff solenoid on my 96 dodge and it lost the alternator on the way back from kansas and i still drove it on home to texas.

EasternAggie 01-19-2011 11:47 PM

I know on my truck, as long as you have the fuel shut-off on a cable and not the solenoid, you can run without electricity. This runs true all the way up to early 98 for Dodges (12v), and early 94 for Fords (IDI's), but I'm not sure where you draw the line on GM's.

FastCR 01-20-2011 05:15 PM

a 93 6.5 should still do it, I haven't seen anyone running a choke cable for the cutoff, but i'd imagine its possible.

EasternAggie 01-21-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by FastCR (Post 692242)
a 93 6.5 should still do it, I haven't seen anyone running a choke cable for the cutoff, but i'd imagine its possible.

That's how my donor truck was set up when I bought it. Guess the solenoid went out and the guy didnt want to buy another one lol

FastCR 01-21-2011 05:19 PM

yeah i meant specifically on a 6.5. I used one on the cummins for awhile, but was ghetto overall and not safe enough for my taste.

Woody35 01-22-2011 04:40 PM

93 6.5 has electric fuel pump so it would kill the inj pump sooner or later.

mobetta 06-03-2011 02:13 PM

I reckon you could still switch back to a mech fuel pump on the 93 6.5, or did they change the block casting/ not machine it?


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