Buying a Used 2006 Powerstroke 6.0
 

Thinking about buying a 6.0 2006 Powerstroke Dually Crew Cab.. It has 100,000 miles on it..

Want it for towing 44' 5th wheel race car trailer. Fairly heavy.

When do the EGR, head gasket problems start?

Or did they fix these issues by 06..


Thanks, Chris..

They run through all of them, from 03-07. Each set had their own problems. If you do get it, for sure do an EGR delete and change the oil cooler while your in there. For peace of mind, I would do head studs as well, that a good sized trailer to be hauling.

I'm a Ford guy, don't get me wrong, but why not a Dmax or Cummins? The problems with the 6.0's can be fixed, you just have to spend a little money up front.

Make sure to get an Oasis report to see what kind of past problems it has had at the dealership.



Luke

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dont buy it, listen to the guys who HAVE NEVER OWNED ONE since they know better than the guys who actually own one:tu:

^^ agreed

And never will own one :rocking::rocking::rocking:

and how is that helping with his question??

I had a 05 6.0 and I tell everyone don't buy one!! (even people I don't like)

Just to many problems with the 6.0 in my eyes to ever be considered reliable for towing especially a heavy load. For a 44 5th wheel you need a cummins with a manual or a Duramax with 4.10's

-get an oasis (make sure there hasnt been to much replaced on it)
-check and see if its had HG's replaced with ARP's
-buy an EGR delete if it doesnt already have one
-buy an edge insight cs or cts or old style to monitor everything while you are towing

EGR/Oil Cooler cause HG problems, its not always a problem of when it happens just depends on how it was treated/taken care of. With the edge you would be able to check and make sure it is 100% before you buy it. You wouldnt be the only one to tow heavy with a 6.0, their transmissions are very stout and they have more room in the cab and ride very nice for being straight axle up front

Put in a fuel pressure gauge, if you start to loose fuel pressure you will fry your injectors (very common)

how about this, i could care less if he does or doesnt buy it.. im sick of having this pointless ass conversation with yall. if my truck ran for shit, why would i keep it?? exactly. So dont buy it, i dont care anymore lollol

where do you live? is it cold there in winter? my fatherinlaws 6.0 will not start if temps below 20 deg without block heater, and yes he had to dealer 3 times for same problem, now he just carrys extensin cord and parkes close to outlet haha, and my other freind goes through turboes and dealer says it because he not drive truck enough!

Because it might stop him from making a bad decision :s:

lol lol lol

ok big guy:tu:

Thats all good if you know that ahead of time, but some people don't want to buy a truck and turn around and spend a bunch more to make it reliable. Not everybody has a lift to work on thier own truck either. :c:

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Dude seriously just because you don't agree with me, just go away or somthing :s:

im just doin what you do..

Truck was from New Mexico. Original owner. (carfax) Now in AZ.

What is an Oasis Report?

You're doing what who does ? You're acting like a 4 year old, just because somebody dosn't agree with your opinion, get over it. :argh:

BTW.. I've had 4 Cummins Dodges.. 2000, 2004. 2006, 2008 Blu-Tec Mega Cab.. Always leased them..
So I'm not illiterate to Diesels.. Just don't want to pay $22,000 for this Ford and then have to do all that work to just drive it..

Also looking at an 04 Duramax (LBZ) with 140,000 mi. and an 07 Cummins 5.9L with 118,000..

Thanks for the input.. Again... What is an Oasis report?????:humm:


Chris..

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That would be a 2004 Duramax LB7 not LBZ.. :argh:


Chris..

Need more info, is the truck stock? What's the price? Tell us more about the truck, is it standard, auto, 4x4... More details. That's a big trailer. Is this truck an F350? F350 tow boss? F450? What's the weight of that trailer? That's a beast... FWIW, Diesel Power magazine bought an old 7.3 dually that was used to haul a trailer that size around for John Force's crew. The 6.0 body style will be much more stable and better all around due to the chassis improvements. As for headgaskets and other issues, none were ever "fixed" by 06, but you could certainly bulletproof this thing to prevent failure. And no matter what anyone says, there are going to be a list of things you should be outfitting on any truck you buy to tow a trailer of that size and weight. Guages would be a must in any truck, airbags more than likely, make sure brakes work good. A brake controller obviously, but the 06 6.0 will have that factory and it's a nice unit. EGR can be deleted for under $200 now days. Headgaskets, I'm not so sure I'd even worry about it on a stock truck, but if you have the money to do it, I would. That can also be done cheap, if you can do the work yourself, and NO you don't need a lift to remove the cab, but it would be easier.

I agree, an Oasis report is a list of warranty work done @ Ford. Any Ford dealer should be able to get you this if you have the VIN.

There's a good discussion going on over at PSN about this, and realistically low fuel pressure probably doesn't really kill them as fast as not changing the oil regularly. However you are right, fuel pressure would be an important one to watch. A fuel pressure gauge is a must. It will lose a TON of power on lower fuel pressure.

That's an easy fix... My truck starts down below 0 without being plugged in no problem. Good batteries and a properly functioning FICM would do your father in law wonders. For someone offering so much advice on a 6.0, I'd figure you know about some of the MOST common problems with them and know how to fix it no?

Going through turbos IS from not driving enough. These trucks need to be WORKED. If they sit, or idle for long periods of time the vanes on the turbo will corrode/rust and start sticking, they like to be worked. If it must idle, wiring in the high idle feature takes all of 15 minutes... locks it in at a 1200rpm idle and locks the torque converter. This will also prevent wet stacking. Ford also has a newer flash out that cycles the turbo vanes at idle to prevent sticking. I have this on my truck...


Agreed, but any truck regularly towing a 44' trailer is going to need work. With an auto Dodge, he'd probably have to step up to a built trans right off the bat. That will run about the same as bulletproofing a 6.0 if he was paying someone to do the work. A bunch more time? How long do you think it takes? You make it seem way more difficult than it is. I guess cummins is for the lazy guys who don't know how to turn wrenches??? :tttt:


Again, Oasis is just the warranty report from Ford. Tells you what has been done.


$22k sounds like a lot for this truck honestly. You can find one already bulletproofed for that price... search the forums.

The lb7 is a decent truck, but lighter and not as solid as the Ford, chassis wise. They also seem to go through injectors for no apparent reason... even more than 6.0's.

The 07 might be a good choice, is it a dually? What's the cost on that? That will also need things like gauges and probably trans work hauling anything that heavy.


Welcome to DB.
:c:

Yes thats the problem with 6.0s, but if you do your homework you wont end up with a problem truck.

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Agreed, but any truck regularly towing a 44' trailer is going to need work. With an auto Dodge, he'd probably have to step up to a built trans right off the bat. That will run about the same as bulletproofing a 6.0 if he was paying someone to do the work. A bunch more time? How long do you think it takes? You make it seem way more difficult than it is. I guess cummins is for the lazy guys who don't know how to turn wrenches??? :tttt:

And to blow absurd amounts of smoke :moon::bat:

Honestly, I think no matter what brand you decide to go with, they're all going to need some hard parts and a little lovin to safely handle that big of a trailer. Really would be nice to know the weight of that... you may find yourself needing an F450, or even step it up to medium duty like a Kodiak or something along those lines. That's a big trailer...

The trailer loaded weighs about 17,000.. I used to tow this regularly with my Dodges. Never any issue..
Also had a 53' trailer with living quarters and it weighed over 26,000 w/ the truck.. I know that because a sign lit up on the interstate to enter scales.. :scare2:

I towed this with my 06 Dodge Dually with a 4.10 and a Bully Dog.. Got 12.1 mpg from Vegas to Phoenix.. :tu:

All of these trucks are Duallies.. and I always have had Air Bags..

The Ford is a F-350 4x4 Dually.

The 07 Dodge is a Dually for $19,000 Auto..

The 04 Duramax is a Dually LB7 with auto $19,000


Thanks for the input.. :jump:


Chris..

Agreed there

If you want the 6.0 to be reliable, especially hauling that much weight, thats what it takes. Nobody here denies that.

Stay away. LB7's are notorious for going through injectors, not something you want to have to worry about.

Stick or auto? If stick, out of the three choices, it gets my vote.

You guys need to learn how to read, how does "spend a bunch more" equate to time ? BTW I do my own wrenching, my truck dosn't blow tons of smoke, and I wouldn't by a Cummins with an automatic to tow 44K :moon::moon:

That would be 44 foot.. (44') NOT 44K.. For you that are reading challenged..


Chris..

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BTW.. Here is the VIN if someone knows how to do an Oasis Report..

1FTWW33P96EB87415

Thanks..

I think you should buy the 6.0 they're great trucks :nope:

I can always count on this site to keep me laughing....... keep it up guys..... thanks! :jump:

I think the truck is nice or I would not have posed the original question..

The 6.0L maybe not so much..

The answers are what I was kind of thinking.. I don't want to pay over $20,000 for a truck, then have to pull the heads, EGR, inter cooler, etc... just to drive it..

I will be towing maybe 3,000 miles per year, and not many bad hilly drives..

Most likely going with the 07 Dodge.. :choochoo:


Chris..

It's not like you HAVE to do that stuff to drive it, it's more just preventative maintenance. And like I said before, I don't think that's a good deal on that truck anyways. For that price you can find one with that stuff already done. 6.0's are tow pigs man. They love working hard like that.

Go with the 07 cummins. It's your best option.

And pray for your transmission while your towing all that weight around :argh:

I'm not trying to take Tireman's side here, but he can just invest the $3-4k he would have spent on studs, new HG, EGR delete, and new oil cooler (and also the $3k lower asking price) and invest in a built tranny.

My. 02 :humm:

Considering stock trucks dont need studs, my tuned truck doesnt need studs. Invest in an EGR delete, new oil cooler, coolant flush, rebuild your FICM for sh1ts and giggles, and let her rip. That is going to cost less than a built trans. Either way your going to dump a couple grand just a matter if you want the dodge or the ford

:hellox::hellox::hellox: Didn't know I had a side I was just giving my opinion :c:

What is the FICM?


Thanks, Chris

fuel injection control module. You don't have to do anything with that until a problem arises, you can get them fixed pretty cheap now though. I wouldn't really worry about it.

OR...... you could get a late rmodel GM Duramax and not have to do anything but enjoy your truck!! ......Just my .02

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Found a 2005 Silverado LT Dually with 110,000 for $18,000.. :w2:


Chris..:pca1: