1st Time 2nd Gen 24V Cummins Owners , Winter
 

Just post up some tips and tricks and FAQ about the 24v 2nd gen Cummins for you new owners ,

Headlights Diming Is normal that's your intake heaters cycling , Your intake heaters is a block of fins that are heated and when the air passes threw them its heated so hot air is going into your engine ,

You dont have any Glow Plugs Your Initial Firing is Cold Oil , Cold Block and Cold Air , so it may start ruff , And if its really cold it will shut a few cylinders off to stay running , You have no "FIRE" your engine relies 100% on compression Ignition of Fuel and Air inside the cylinders,

Give your truck a break and PLUG IT IN !!! , its not a constant draw of electric it heats up then cools down then repeats Make a Big Difference .

DO NOT USE your windshield wipers to remove snow/ice from your windshield , The motor is not very tuff and it will break.

Run a Fuel Additive if its really cold Dont run an Emulsifier Style Fuel Additive , You Want a Demulsifier Additive during the winter It will say on the label which is which

Emulsifiers Join H20 Molecules in your fuel system in hopes of capturing the large chunks of water in the fuel separator , This can cause Frozen Lines as the H20 is grouped

Demulsifiers disperse H20 molecules in your fuel system with hopes of passing threw your fuel system and injectors unnoticed , having the H20 dispersed will be less likly to freeze

yep the this morning my wait to start light stayed on for about 7-10 seconds i almost started it just from habit...so boys and girls get ready it wont be to long now:yeah:

If you can let it run for a little bit as soon as you fire it up...dont just start it and take off it can be hard on everything your oil touches. So let the oil get a little warm so it can do its job!:U:

ESPAR or WEBASTO hydronic engine heater.


I hate winter.

Uhh, well, no. Sorry but this is simply not correct. The modern ISB and ISBE trucks warm up much faster when they are being used inside the load range. Idling does nothing but wash your cylinders, waste fuel and piss people off.

What you want to do is get it running, scrap the windows and slowly get it rolling. Driving way under the speed limit for a few 100 yards or even miles depending on where and how cold will get you the results you want.

If your truck has the latest flash it will engage the high idle if it is really cold and if that's the case this is ok to let it sit for a bit as the motor is in the load range and will generate heat. This will not wash cylinders but will still waste fuel.

Cheers.

And i thought I knew a thing or two:ouch:

Hey Circleville your right up the road from me ! Did you every go to any of the meets in lancaster ?

Hey, no harm, no foul. Just wanting to point out that in winter most people thing they need to let it sit and warm up. Doing this will just cause problems. Sometimes VERY expensive problems - which compound if you have big injectors like I do as I already have excessive amounts of blow by as a result of those sticks...

I wasn't picking on you, please don't see it like that.:choochoo::c:

No I never knew there were any....please let me know cause i will definitly be there:U:

It's been my experiance that letting the truck just sit there and idle doesn't allow it to warm up anyway. I've let mine sit and run at work when it was 15 degrees out. Idled for nearly half an hour (not a good idea for reasons above) and the coolant never got above 120 degrees. Now If I activate my Jake Brake when I start up, it will be up to temp (170+) in just 10-15 minutes!:U: Gotta love exhaust brakes.

I agree, I warm my truck up w/ the the exhaust brake on, for five min. tops. Just a slight load on the engine, and exhaust temps @ 400+ :U:

Exactly. A lotad by moving, by high idle or by restriction like a brake will get the results you want.:choochoo:

Adjusting your seats and creat that high idle. Works wonders.

From what I understand the high idle feature has to be turned on by the dealer. As well as the 3 cylinder idle. Or a homemade Potentiometer spliced into the wiring, or a stick against the pedal. Or some other after market means. Like a Smarty or Adrenaline.

I agree with the above too. I idle my truck for a min or 2 then drive it easy till I hit the Highway (1 mile rough dirt road) then take it easy as I accelerate to the speed limit. After that I set the cruise and forget it. It usually takes about 5-7 miles before the needle hits 170. Longer if its really cold.

Yeah Im moving right down the road from you just bought a house in New Holland should be moved in by the end of the month:choochoo:

If it gets colder than 0, I stick a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I also let it idle long enough for the grids to finish cycling and maybe a little more. Drive around town long enough for the temp gauge to climb up or drive real easy heading out of town.

my dad used to own a 6.0 powerjoke and he says that its only neccesary to blug the truck in in teen teperatures is this true with cummins since it only has a gird heater and not glow plugs

any time is better than never

Watch your wait to start light , it will keep getting longer and longer as it gets colder

i always wait till that shuts off, sometimes last winter if it was below 10 i would cycle the pre-heater more than once but is it bad if i dont plug her in when its between 10-20

IMO No its not bad if you dont , but its good if you do

what does IMO stand for? oh ok its one of those things that if i forget it wont hurt it

Coldest weather I've started my truck without plugging it in was minus 22 degrees F (at the shop one morning 3 years ago). Done the pre-heat thing started 'er up but she stalled. Done the pre-heat thing a second time, fired her up and never missed a lick. Hit the Jake (and the seat warmers:U:) and let 'er idle for a bout 10 minutes and headed on home, no problems.

In My Opinion... Cold is cold and the unassisted cummins doesn't like it much. Coldest failed start for me was -43 C and coldest start with block heater and other goodies was -33 C.

Engine Heater
 

Sorry for the dumb question, but I just got my truck and haven't finished reading the owner's manual. Is an engine heater an add-on accessory or is it already on my '01 Cummins?

its already there under the intake manifold

engine heater
 

So I just need to get a cord?

you have a plug its under your airdam on the front passengers side next to the frame rail , when its real cold out just get an extension cord and plug in to 110, thats your block heater , you also have intake heaters that cycle with the Wait To Start light and when your truck is below operating tempature

I thought some trucks didn't have the cord. All of teh cummins engines have the heater in the block. Look on the passenger side under the turbo just behind the oil filter. If you dont have a cord Geno's Garage sells the for a good price. ALOT cheaper then teh stealership.

find that cord, and plug her in!!!! i found it gets heat for the wife and kids a lot quicker. and there is nothing worse then your wifes cold toes!!!!!!!!!!!!! cause it will be your problem no matter what.

Thanks for the help. I found the cord. Doesn't look like it's been used much in the past, but since I bought the truck in Georgia, they may not have needed it. I'll clean up the plug and be ready for colder weather. As for the wife, her feet will have to wait, but I do have heated seats.

hey that should keep her happy, i didn't get that with my dodge, but i had it on an older ford work truck, and it was VERY NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!:5:

WIGIDIGIT BLOCK HEATER BUMPER PLUG ('94-'02 NON SPORT DODGE)-Dodge Cummins Diesel Truck Accessories – Geno’s Garage. Here a nice little add on, run out to the truck in the cold in your pjs forget your keys :humm:I dont have to open the hood now just plug it in!:U:It gets cold here.

hey thats pretty slick. makes a cleaner look then having the plug dangle in the wind, then get iced to the bumper:argh:, then get mad cause your fingers are ready to turn blue:madd:, all the while you are getting soaked cause your to much of a "guy" to put a coat on:ph:. man this thing could really save some headach's

dont forget to unplug before you drive off. wonder how i know that

Good Point,Note to self buy the brightest flourasant extension cord I can find

you will want to get one with a lit end so you know it has power , trust me wet extension cords into plugins tend to short out

Hell down here in Texas i Still got Bout 2 mounths befor i even have to woory bout cold starts but yea plug it in and your good to go in the mornings... if you plug it in down here it starts up just like summer time almost lol... were lucky if it gets below 40

o u can buy extention cords with lights in the end helps alot on remebering i almost drove off with it pluged into my 93.... wouldnt have been fun

I have one that has a lite end and is on a cord reel, hard to miss when I have to look at it at 3:30 in the morning, with sleepers in the eyes thinking wow I wish I was a banker getting a bail out and I was rich and no worrys:argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::a rgh::argh::argh:

40* you dont need to even plug it in :D...the night leaving work last winter when it was like-15* all night and went out to start the thing without it being plugged in..that was a coughin, sputterin, smokin mother to get started:choochoo:

well i plugg it in when it gets around frezzing but 15* is rare down here