Who says the Ford motor will fall on it's face.....only time will tell, but they have had a lot of time to get it right. I think it will be interesting to say the least. I think they have too much at stake to screw up.

What do you feel is so special about an I-6 over a V-8?

Navistar sucks.....Just look at the 5 PSD's outside my shop....

Well let's just look at this. Have you EVER seen or heard of a Powerstroke or Duramax or old 6.2 or 6.5 getting anywhere near the mileage before having to be rebuilt. The longevity of these motors is just incredible. I think it has a lot to do with eveyrthing going straight up and down instead of the "v" configuration. Look at even a gas motor for example. The old Ford 300 inline six. You could beat the hell out of those motors and they run forever and are torquey as hell. Jeep too, they're 4.0L inline six, another awesome example.

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With the exception of the old Cat 3208 motors look at OTR trucks that run hundreds of thousands and some a million miles plus. ALL inline six motors and a vast majority of construction equipment as well.

The worst part about navistar engines in ford trucks is the ford electronics. The same engines with navistar electronics run without trouble. Ford is also notorious for being hard for suppliers to work with. My buddy has several 2002 F350 rolling chassis' that a local company was using to develop a factory air ride system for ford. Needless to say ford's demands were such that the company dropped the project. Could you imagine if they had a factory air ride system that would fix the hay wagon suspension they currently use??? Its basically the same thing that happened with the 6.0 and the 6.4 ... ford demanded engines before navistar was ready to give them engines.

IMO Ford has always had the better looking better built trucks. One of our company Chevy's only has 130K on it, maybe 5 years old and already has door and trim pieces falling off. Mostly highway miles too.....

I also don't expect a truck to ride like a caddy....if I wanted a caddy, I'd buy one. My truck doesn't ride all that bad, and neither does my dad's F-350 long bed for that matter. They ride really great when loaded. Put 1k in the bed of my truck and they ride like a dream.

From what they have told us it will be a joint effort between CAT and Navastar, don't know the details as we do not build the over the road engines.


Oh and by the way that new ford is ugly.

wat ever happens, happens. i like all diesels.

I totally agree with you. That's why I said if Ford were to put an inline six turbo diesel I'd come back tomorrow. LOL, I miss em so much I'm seriously considering getting a late 90s early 2000s model and doin a Cummins swap. The Cat C7 would be ideal but I'd have enough of a hard time affording the buying of the truck, motor and all related swap pieces to do a Cummins.

Its gonna be interesting to see what happens a little farther down the road. Fords are alright in my opinion, they have never really worked super well out on the ranch for us but I still hope this works out for them. Good luck to Ford. :c:

Somebody forgot to tell all those diesel trians that the inline diesels were better than a V Configuration. They also forgot to tell all of the super dump trucks, too. :w2: