I have to go with Joe on this one Rustin. TS Chips or DPs Chip are far and away much better than these programmers u mention. The programmers are all GENERIC Tunes unless you can get Jody to put his tunes on an SCT. But either way, TS or DP and head and shoulders above.

We have excellent luck with the TS Performance 6pos Chip on the 7.3s.

Well, I am sure of that. I just never said Chips were no good. I said I prefer a flash tune. And it is expensive, when done correctly, if you get some yahoo that has no clue then. It's still expensive. Joe asked the question, and I answered. I did not ask to make this a debate of technology. I have my opinion, It's not wrong, nor is it right? SCT has wonderful software out for about $3-6,000 so does Sniper. They can almost but no quite do what EFI Live does for GM. These trucks are getting quite sophisticated And the computer systems are getting much better. The Chips are getting better, and so does the flash software. In my opinion no facts behind it. The reason why we have very few flash tuners is, that it's hard and most flash tuners are afraid to tune a diesel.

Am I stupid for thinking this way? Yeah, I asked the question any member can give it to me. This ought to be interesting.:argh:

Rustin...

Our computers are not changing, Nothing major on the 7.3 PCM has changed since 97... The reason there are not flash tuners for the 7.3, is because a chip does it so much better... The chip has more capacity then the factory PCM has...

Now when you step up to a 6.0, 6.4, 6.7... Its a different matter... But we are not in those forums, we are in the 7.3 forum, and chips are just plain better.

Every time you have started this, on every forum, everyone has told you the same thing...

But carry on, and have fun with your flash tuner.:tu:

It would be nice if this was moved over on another thread instead of cluttering this guys MPG thread. And you have been right on the chips! Like I said I prefer flash tuning. Thats me. I have yet to say any of you are wrong. It is unfortunate nobody dares to figure out how to flash except for the one person you mentioned earlier. If one man can flash tune a truck well! it can be done. All I will say is Chips are old technology. It still works and it is better then ever. After time something will get figured out, and all you have to do is drive to a shop, get plugged in, and your permitters are set. I will also admit they are basic tunes. Not written for a truck with all the different components that need to be worked. If the chip guys could take what they know and put it to a flash. We would not have to disengage the chip for California smog! Simply because californians are lazy and complain about chip removal and other stuff. I know this has nothing to do with this guy he might not live in CA. Have they (The chip makers) received an executive order to be legal?
You have fun to joe! Thanks for the lesson! I need it. No jokes Seriously I did need it.