so i guess i just need to go spend some money and get a bully dog triple dog and be done with it

Yep. go waist your money. You CANNOT beat Custom Tunes from some very reliable Tuners, i.e. Tyrant Diesel, Beans, DPTuner, Swamps, etc

I will have it reaclibrated then when he scans it.

Get a custom chip, and save yourself over the bully dog. A custom chip will give you better power and run much better. But never ever look into any chip or power adder for an increase in mpg, cause you wont see it

That would not be the chip or programer of my choice...

First off you have to get some gauges, at least a boost and a pyro, this will allow you to see what your truck is doing.

Then you can add some power if you want.

The problem is, most people go out and get a programer to boost there MPG, and they are disapointed.

Throwing a chip or programer on there MIGHT gain you 1-2-3 MPG, but you will have to learn to drive it very lightly.

There are lots of good tuners out there to put some tunes on a chip, Power Hungry Performance, Swamps, Beans, DI, Total Diesel Performance, Cale (cant recall his company name right now, Ken?).

Call up one of them and tell them what your looking for... But dont expect 20mpg, or even 18mpg with a dually.

I never said chips were bad. Tuning will get you so far. it has always been tires, aerodynamics, and driving style.

Joe, Cale's Company is in Bold

Thank you...

Like I said Chips have come along-way and they are better then they used to. I will say this they have become much better at working with the PCM. Remember; before you could not scan your truck for codes, if you use a chip. I stand on my opinion and judgment. Not here to argue. Call me an idiot all you want behind your screen. I understand what goes on with a chip and a flash tune. I am still working with DP on a set-up, Simply because the cost of my Flash Tune out weighs my budget.

You have nothing to back up what your saying...

The Same TS chip that came out back in 1998 is the very same one we are using today... I have no idea what you are using as facts or information to base your chips are bad ideas, but I wish you would take some time to read up on what a chip does on a 7.3...

You have ALWAYS been able to scan your truck with a chip installed on a 7.3 powerstroke...

Did I say they were bad? You need to stop! This is a thread on fuel economy. I never said chips are bad. Joe when your right your right, regardless of an opinion. Besides TS, there is HyperMax, and Superchips, ETC.....