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articfox 01-10-2011 10:35 PM

ford cummins conversion?
 
ive seen alot conversions from a 7.3l to a 24vavle or a 12vavle cummins motor. i love my 7.3 but when my motor goes i was wondering how hard it would be to swap the motor out with a cummins. i was just wondering how hard it would be to do and how well do they work? ive read online and people say it works well i just dont want to drop a lot of money into a motor that wont work well. i will probly have someone put it in for me but how hard would it be to swap em? its just a thought. :humm: i know id have to buy conversion plates and kits but id just like to have a different truck than everyone else

Lange503 01-11-2011 12:00 AM

i've only seen a few but they seem to work really well when done right

articfox 01-11-2011 12:19 PM

how long does a cummins motor last?

Lange503 01-11-2011 12:31 PM

FOREVER lol they last a long time if treated right

Kyle_KleinSS 01-11-2011 01:48 PM

My buddys got one in his 05 when he blew the 6 liter. Not worth it imo. The trans controller and the adapter plates and stuff cost him like 3 grand alone. plus motor. And he rigged alot of things himself. If you do it right be ready to spend around 8k. He spend maybe 6 and like I said he rigged alot. Imo buy another truck if you get to that point

articfox 01-11-2011 01:56 PM

gota cost less than that

Kyle_KleinSS 01-11-2011 01:58 PM

You need a pcs trans controller. That cost him 1k. The adapter plate was 1k. Thats 2k right there in 2 parts. Lots of fab work bro

Lange503 01-11-2011 02:01 PM

3,200$ from beans, really its not that bad if you look at the difference in the long run

articfox 01-11-2011 02:18 PM

sounds about right , i live in nc anybody knows any conversion shops?

Lange503 01-11-2011 02:31 PM

hit up de-stroked they have a list of them on their site, and also check your local emissions to see if it can pass, some states require that the engine must be as new or newer than the vehicle its put in

articfox 01-11-2011 07:13 PM

none by me :argh:

LORDDiESEL 01-11-2011 09:55 PM

still getting parts together for my swap. 06 CR cummins. It's going to be well worth it.

DIESELMECH95 01-13-2011 02:35 PM

Sounds like a cool project to me. 6-8 k sounds like alot until you compare that to the price of a new truck. Cummins is very reliable and long lasting. Of course the amount you decide to spend depends on what you are going to be doing with it. Totally worth it if you ask me and this would be a great way to personalize YOUR truck.
Ford + Cummins = 1 bad mammer jammer!!!:rocking:

CSIPSD 01-13-2011 03:52 PM

A properly done 5.9 CR swap complete is about 15k... You can cheap out on things here and there and get it done for less, but done right, turn key...

$15k.

Kainedogg 01-13-2011 05:21 PM

15k?!! Ouch. That's the point where I sell my 7.3 and buy low mileage Dodge 3500.

CSIPSD 01-13-2011 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Kainedogg (Post 687333)
15k?!! Ouch. That's the point where I sell my 7.3 and buy low mileage Dodge 3500.



Sure, but then you get the crappy dodge wrapping. The ONLY thing good about a dodge, is the motor...

The ONLY thing not good about a FORD... Is the motor. And even that is debatable.

LORDDiESEL 01-13-2011 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by CSIPSD (Post 687264)
A properly done 5.9 CR swap complete is about 15k... You can cheap out on things here and there and get it done for less, but done right, turn key...

$15k.

all depends on what you pick the engine up for. And if you can use the tranny on the back of it or not.

If you do everthing yourself, you're still around the 10K mark if you get a good deal on the engine.

Lange503 01-13-2011 11:14 PM

a CR will be more expensive and time consuming due to all the electronics involved

EasternAggie 01-14-2011 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Kyle_KleinSS (Post 685512)
My buddys got one in his 05 when he blew the 6 liter. Not worth it imo. The trans controller and the adapter plates and stuff cost him like 3 grand alone. plus motor. And he rigged alot of things himself. If you do it right be ready to spend around 8k. He spend maybe 6 and like I said he rigged alot. Imo buy another truck if you get to that point


Originally Posted by CSIPSD (Post 687264)
A properly done 5.9 CR swap complete is about 15k... You can cheap out on things here and there and get it done for less, but done right, turn key...

$15k.

This hurts guys. Did mine completely for $3200, and after selling back my old engine and tranny, and the donor truck Dana 80, about $2200. No, its not a professional job, there's so some stuff rigged on it, but dangit it works and its a solid, reliable setup.

I do have to admit, on a newer auto truck, its gonna be more expensive after you add in adapter plates and tranny controllers. But get a 12v, throw an NV4500 behind it, and you eliminate all that extra cost. Just depends on what route you go.

Find a 94-98 donor truck with a standard tranny, and cost wise you're looking at the donor truck, driveshaft mods, motor mounts, and misc other parts (water temp/oil pressure gauge adapters, tach hookup mods, etc.). Play your cards right, search around for good deals, and I see no reason why you couldn't do it for under $5k MAX as long as you didnt mind having a handshaker.

RattleBomb7.3 01-26-2011 08:28 PM

yea i thought about the same conversion for my 96, but the conversion kit and cummins engine will cost as much as a mild built 7.3 in my case, so you wouldnt save any money, all depends on what you want to do with the truck. EasternAggie is right though, if you do the work yourself you will save a ton of money.

04 Ex 11-17-2014 06:40 PM

04 Excursion Mods
 
I found a 95 12v complete running very well for very cheap. You wouldnt believe the price if I told you, but I want put it in my 04 v10 Excursion. The 47rh has a heavy duty converter and a stage 1 rebuild whatever that means. Lol Why couldnt I use the cummins trans? The motor has 260,000 and completely stock. Oh and 4x4!

Fox Cummins 09-02-2016 10:53 PM

Hey Guys.
Just finishing up my cummins swap, did any of hookup your factory water temp
if so How???

Thanks

Theren Boster 11-29-2016 09:20 AM

Well this thread isn't as dead as I thought it'd be.
I'm doing some research before I start buying stuff for my build but I'm thinking like an 02-07 (pre EGR) 5.9 24v with an Allison behind it in my 94 F250 Pre-Stroked 7.3 IDIT. I already know its gonna cost money, I can get money, that's not so much the issue. Paying someone for parts isn't the problem, paying someone to do what I can do is different. I'm expecting 10k as far as total expenses. I like the OBS trucks, I like the Cummins and I like the Allison. Everything I've read, its the best 3 things, so why not combine them.
I've found wrecked cummins trucks in the years I'm looking at, flooded or rolled for around 300 or so, I'm planning a complete rebuild, balanced and blueprinted. Centerline honed, torque plate honed whole 9. A rebuild Allison from the factory isn't horrible either.
One of my current worries is electrical. Adapting the 2002-07 wiring harness and ECM to the OBS Ford. I'd also like to be able to set up for high idle if needed in the winter to warm the truck.
My brother is a mechanic and I'm a machinist, we can figure it out, but if anyone has any tips (aside from buying a new truck) I'm listening.
Thanks!:tu:

Theren Boster 11-29-2016 10:47 AM

Been reading. Probably not an Allison.


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