Fuel Bowl Delete
 

I have heard of the fuel bowl delete and was wondering if it was worth it or where the kit can be found, and I have found a kit that splits the fuel line to feed each head seperatly and was wondering what you all thought of that?

The fuel bowl delete is a bad idea unless you have a pre pump filter installed. Also I wouldn't really do a fuel bowl delete unless your doing a Regulated Return kit. A good kit to look at is the ITP or Sinster Diesel RR kit.

OK thanks what about the kit that splits the fuel line and feeds each head separately?

Haven't seen that, who makes it?

Heres the link to where I found it hopefully it works Riffraff Diesel: Fuel Rail Crossover I also found a hose made to balance the oil pressure between the heads. Does any of these parts seem worth it?

Its a nice set up, will not add any performance, just help quite the idle a bit if you have cackle issues...

Its no fuel system, but a nice part none the less.

the oil cross over will help out with idle noise and also performance because from the factory the oil pressure is only being read from one oil rail. when you link the two together your getting a more accurate reading of the pressures in the rails and your not getting all the pressure drop so in turn the icp sensor is getting a more accurate reading which in turn will allow for more pressure to be created by your tuner and also doesnt make your pump work as hard to keep up. if that makes sence i put it on mine and i was able to monitor the pressures and there wasnt as much fluxuation and for $40 or $50 bucks it cant hurt

The line he is talking about is NOT the HPO cross over line, but a fuel cross over line that connects the dead headed fuel rails to the fuel return line. It has NOTHING to do with the HPO system.

The HPO X over also does nothing for performance... It amounts to an engineered oil leak... I have one, and if it ever leaks again it will go in the trash and the plugs back in. Did nothing.

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oops thats what i get for reading too fast through stuff oh well but it did help level out the pressures on my truck, every engine is diffrent and react to mods diffrently.

Thanks for your input guys I was asking about both I think. I have been just looking for some parts to improve my truck. I think my next step is a set of injectors but I was looking for less expensive mods before I went that far.

I have the HPOP HPX line myself, I really didn't see any gains what so ever. Maybe the idle is alittle smoother but thats about it.

The fuel hose your looking at seem to be a good buy. Haven't really heard of anyone running that setup. I've mostly seen the RR kit from Sinster Diesel or The Diesel Site kits.

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What all do you have done to your truck now?

I have an Intake, Exhaust, Edge CS, Wicked Wheel, and the bully dog shift enhancer .

I would drop the Edge and get a 6 pos chip. Unless you really like the Edge. You can get more out of a 6 pos chip with some good tunes. I had an Edge Evo that came with the truck. I bought a chip from Swamps Diesel Performance and it was like night and day. Made the 80hp setting on the Edge feel like stock. I would start with a good chip and go from there. Then if you want more, start looking at injectors.

Which one is the 6 pos??

there are lots of 6 pos... PHP, Beans, Tony Wildman.... there are also lots of threads on this subject :tu:

Thanks Ill look into them

fuel bowl delete?
 

Hello im new here and was wondering if anyone knew of a kit that works with the air dog 2 or if there is a DIY kit you can do that will save me some money.

What are you wanting to do?

fuel bowl delete
 

CSIPSD, i have heard of many talking about a fuel bowl delete and I was trying to find out more and see if it would be a good mod. I have an air dog 2 system and read some things that tell me that an air dog will not work with this.

Air dog would work fine with this, really no need for a factory fuel bowl with the Air dog, its doing all the filtering there.

However with the factory injectors there is really no need to spend that kind of money IMHO...

RiffRaff has a dead head delete kit that is pretty nice, want to put one on my wifes excursion one of these days.

fuel bowl delete
 

Thank you CSIPSD I looked at the kit and I would be easier on my wallet

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also CSIPSD i have tried to send you a private message but i guess i cant without having 10 posts on here. my question was about injectors, i would like to upgrade mine but the Army does not pay well. is there anywhere that would upgrade the stock ones i have now for cheap or a DIY kit. if i am out of line posting this here i do apologize, youre advice is greatly aprreciated.

Injectors...

Read this sticky and some of the others up at the top of this subforum.

Really depends on what your HP goal is, and what your budget is....

https://www.dieselbombers.com/ford-p...ease-read.html

Fuel Bowl Delete
 

Ok so I want to do I fuel system what all us needed? My goal is 500hp. So RR, bowl delete, but what's the best filter set up to use when doing a bowl delete? I've been hearing lot of bad from people i know with there air dog's so idk if I wanna go that route? Would the huntch mod I believe be a good idea?

Hutch makes it so you can fill the tank absolutely full by cutting off the vent hose short inside the tank (Once the fuel reaches the vent it cuts the gas pump out, by cutting the vent hose shorter the pump kicks out later, Gasoline expands and needs head room, diesel doesn't expand as much and needs much less expansion room in the tank)

I myself have been lazy as of late with a new wife and house but soon development will continue on a fuel system that guts everything except the fuel level gauge and starts anew, from the tank cap to the return will all be new, a 5/8 id fuel pickup, new fuel screen that draws from the surface of the fuel (water separates and lays in the bottom of the tank, why do I want fuel from the contaminated section of the tank?) 10 micron pre-filter wit water separation, Aeromotive pump rebuilt to bio-diesel standards (if it can survive the acidity of bio-diesel, it'll withstand normal fuel) 1 micron post filter with water separation, AN-10 all the way from tank to heads, Aeromotive pressure regualator again built for bio, 6an return back the tank with a new return WAYYY in the back, away from the fuel intake to lower cavitation. At this juncture I see noone has what I wanted, and alot of what I've seen is crap, cutting corners everywhere they could. I also noticed a few sites intermixing AN and JIC fittings, hmmmmm BAD BAD! That's also a major reason why I won't spend 400-700 on a "pre-engineered" system.

i just installed the riff raff crossover kit you are talking about. clay said he has seen some slight fuel milage from it, but really no big difference. i run my truck every day, and my fuel milage didn't improve at all and if anything it got worse but i did install a new turbo wicked wheel at the same time so i can't really say the fuel kit made the milage drop slightly or the wheel. didn't notice any increase in anything to be honest with ya. i personally won't put one on again any of my trucks, but thats just me.

Fuel mods will not effect the MPG any one way or the other...

My fuel system is a strictly diesel bowl delete kit with two napa filter heads under the truck. One is a 10 mic water/prefilter and the other is a 2 mic final filter. Keep in mind the factory filter is a 12mic filters so 2 mic is MORE THEN ENOUGH.

so for a fuel system could i just do a air dog or fass with strictly diesel bowl delete kit? and that will take are of it all?

Yeah that would be good.