what to do for injectors
 

So im gettin ready to do my injectors and was trying to figure out wether i should have them rebuilt with a bigger bore and injector tips or just buy the stage 1 sticks.

Well if your injectors are new(er) or at least in good condition, consider looking into rosewoods budget buy stage 1 sticks. My injectors are brand new, so I think I'm gonna just do the budget build DIY stage 1 sticks. They are like 500$ up to 800$ w/ options.

it depends on what your goals are.

What are your hp goals and intended uses for the truck? What is your budget? Answer those questions and then pick an injector that will work for that...

There is no more DIY kits... Jim stopped selling them a while back...

Really? Because I could have sworn I just saw them on his website. Either way, the budget-builds are still a damn-good deal. The only downside is your truck will be down while you send your sticks in and wait for them to come back

I dont want a crap ton of power but i want some more power with a little more smoke then what she does now. price dont matter i was just wondering which way to go. plus im runnin at about 150xxx on the stock ones so i figured its time to upgrade.

If you are just looking for a little more get up and go, some stage 1's and some custom tunes will do you fine.

Ya im just going to order the stage 1 sticks and and some custom tunes are the next step.
:jump::rocking:

Rosewoods?

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If money is no object I would go brand new unmolested ACs.

Ya i m goin with the new ones only cause i know they havent been rodded and crap. plus i like the idea of a warrenty.

Get some NEW AC code injectors. You will love them!

Just installed them in Chelsea's Excursion and you could not ask for a better injector for 350hp...

Except for Rosewoods budget buy...

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What is with you and rosewoods? There is nothing better then brand new.

You get what you pay for with injectors, not knocking Rosewoods stuff, but even he will tell you a brand new injector will beat a rebuilt injector.

I have run injectors from AA's to 250/200 hybrids and everything in between, and those AC's in Chelsea's Ex are the cats meow.

lol I dont know. Just like the idea of set of stage 1 sticks for 500$ :choochoo:

As long as you get the tungsten coating (another 300$, of course..) I see no reason why the budget builds are bad (assuming your stick aren't already shot to begin with). How much do ac's run? Aren't those just factory SD sticks?

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Yes ACsz are stock but not in a SD. They are the same size as your stage 1 "sticks".

What do AC's come in then? And how much does a new set of AC's (and from where...) go for?

AC injectors are found in the high torque version of the T444E and do not come in any Powerstrokes. They have the same internals as the AB injectors with the exception of the single shot plunger and barrel. However due to them being single shot injectors they flow 160cc. This is due to the way the split shots work. They have a small passage that opens, much like a port in a two stroke engine, that are uncovered that bypass the injection pressure out the side of the barrel instead of out the end through the nozzle. Because of this pause a portion of the travel of the plunger does nothing for injecting fuel so a split shot injects less fuel for the same amount of travel as a single shot.


any of the vindors can get you ACs, not sure on price you would have to ask.

So wait are you sayiong AC's are split shots? I rreally hope not. If they are competitive to the rosewoods budgets I may consider them. Otherwise I'll prolly stick with roses. I'm def curious on a price tho

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No they are single shots. Reread the quote again then process it. They will be more expensive because they are BRAND NEW not rebuilt injectors with who knows how many miles on them.

Ah. Single shot 160cc's. How much more do they go for? Because I have basically brand new OEM's, and for $800 I can get them built to stage 1's and tungsten coated (which is what will make them last several hundred thousand miles).

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Im guessing around 1600 for brand new.

The AC's are 1850 or rosewood's site. Just for comparison

Dannnnnng. The hell with that. Rosewoods budget's it is!

For example... I got brand new AC code injectors with O-rings for $1500...

With that your getting a matched, brand new, never touched set of injectors. Like came from the factory when you drove off the lot.

You can get 238 hybrids for $1800...

You hope, but if there are issues with your cores, the price goes up, if there are mods needed, the price goes up.

I honestly dont care what you do, but as I said before, I have run A LOT of injectors... I would pay more to have new.

Like I said tho, all 8 injectors are brand new w/in the past year or so... so I'm not too worried about any issues with them. As long as they are tungsten coated I dont foresee rosewoods crapping out anytime soon :)

with ACcz to really get the most potential out of them based on what I have learned thus far would it also be wise to get bigger injector nozzles, or is that kind of the inwritten "ya duh" assumption :humm:

Stock nozzles on my wifes right now, 347hp... With some tuning tweaks this should be around 360-370... But I am quite happy with it now.

is that 347 at the rear wheels? what all have you done to her car? what would i have to do to get my 97 to that level of performance, im looking for somewhere between 350-400 rwhp

Yes thats to the wheels... we dont care about crank hp around here. Do some sticks, intake, exhaust and a good tuner and see if you like it. Thats what these guys dynoing 347hp and 375hp are doing.

She has the normal intake, exhaust, chip, 38R and AC's... Runs great, cant get it hot and gets good mileage.

wow that's really impressive

thats intercooled though right? how big of a difference does the intercooler make? i was reading in the stickys about the 97 7.3, 225 hosepower, and the 2000, 250 or 275 depending on trans, why do they add more power for the manual trans? what is the difference between the 97 and the 2000, all that i know of is intercooler. and what was the differnce between the 99 and 00? one 99 had 235hp and 00 had 250 is it all in just the computer programing or what? thanks

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The 95-97 had AA injectors with a 15* hpop, no intercooler.

The 96-97 cali edition had AB spilt shots with a 15* hpop and no intercooler.

The early 99 had a little different turbo setup and had AB split shots. With a 15* hpop they had an intercooler and an electric fuel system.

The late 99-03 had a little different turbo with AD split shots and a 17* hpop. They had an intercooler and electric fuel.

thank you :) were the AB split shots better than AA? is there an advantage to a split shot? What was the difference on the AD? how much of a difference will an intercooler make for me? and are there any intercoolers that i could get out of a parts truck that will fit well or is a new kit the best way to go?

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AAs are 90cc

ABs are 120cc

ADs are 140cc

When I did my IC I saw about 100* drop in temp at WOT. It wont do much if your stock but if you plan on adding power it is a must.

All CC above are per 1000 shots...

Here is some good reading about injectors, take some time and read the sticky files above...

Sticky files...

https://www.dieselbombers.com/ford-p...ok-inside.html

Injector size as relates to HP...

https://www.dieselbombers.com/99-03-...tml#post528193

Injector info...

https://www.dieselbombers.com/ford-p...ease-read.html

Thanks for all of the information guys :) i was reading those files, there is a ton of information on those! thank you