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Ruger5901 04-23-2012 01:14 PM

Im ordering some REV-X to see how it works.

Does anyone know of a good scanner i can buy that would tell me stuff like this?

Mdub707 04-23-2012 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ruger5901 (Post 886541)
Yea i tested it and posted voltage cold and hot.

Went and got it diagnosed today and low and behold its another one of RCD awesome POS injectors. Ive got a misfire on cyl. 2. He checked all sensors also but the only thing he is finding is the injector on cyl. 2.

Im going to make a vid explaining why not to purchase anything from them. I have had the worst experiences with them. Not only product but customer service.

Spread the word RCD is a S%@!& hole company.

I knew it might of been an injector from the beginning but was talking myself out of it since they were just buzz tested not too long ago!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thanks for all the help guys.

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And i guess i never posted voltage or the FICM :tttt:

It was 47 with the key on and 48.2 cranking

What was FICM voltage while it was running? I've seen some hold 48 key on, 48 cranking and drop to 25 running too. Just food for thought.

As for the injector... I know this sucks, but stay calm. Talk to RCD about this, they seem to be trying to up their customer service game. They are on powerstrokearmy a LOT. At least give them a chance to make it right, before drastic measures. FWIW, I don't know if you know or not, but there was already one RCD customer who made a vid about their injectors and plastered them across the net. I'm not sure what happened, but he is not "allowed" to talk publically about it anymore and the vids are gone. Just be careful whatever way you go.

Also, fwiw, RCD builds injectors from new cores now, though they do still offer the old way of building injectors from old units. Most injector builders got out of this for these very reasons you're seeing with your truck, just too many issues with building big sticks out of old used injectors. But buying new and building from there is $$$$. At least they offer it either way now.


Originally Posted by Ruger5901 (Post 886566)
Im ordering some REV-X to see how it works.

Does anyone know of a good scanner i can buy that would tell me stuff like this?

Rev-X works awesome. There is also some other stuff out there now that a few guys are trying by Evergreen... cheaper as well. Supposed to be real good stuff, just not a big name yet. Try googling it. :c:

As for scanners, the best bang for the buck is AutoEnginuity with the enhanced Ford bundle. You will of course need a labtop for this though. It's around $350 for the whole package and works awesome with the 6.0's. You can test lots of things.

Also an injector can pass a buzz test easily and still be bad. That is basically just checking the electrical portion of the injector. If mechanically something is wrong you'd need a cylinder contribution test. The thing with 6.0's is, they seem to be a PITA to find sticky injectors, mostly because they disappear as the truck warms up.

Powerstroking814 04-23-2012 03:54 PM

Yea my truck runs just like yours and I cant get the sticky injectors to show up on my AE when it's cold... But I also have other issues going on...

Rev-x does work! Well it worked for like 500 miles on mine... But I'm starting to think its the valvoline oil, I don't think my truck likes it...

Mdub707 04-23-2012 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Powerstroking814 (Post 886630)
Yea my truck runs just like yours and I cant get the sticky injectors to show up on my AE when it's cold... But I also have other issues going on...

Rev-x does work! Well it worked for like 500 miles on mine... But I'm starting to think its the valvoline oil, I don't think my truck likes it...

The synthetic premium blue in 5w-40 is supposed to be awesome for these trucks. I'm so dissatisfied with the 15w-40 non synthetic I put it mine that I'm changing it this weekend. I can't deal with it anymore.

Powerstroking814 04-23-2012 07:34 PM

Well I'm 90% sure that what they put in mine... So maybe thats where my 2 stroke and rough running when cold is coming from?

What symptoms is your truck doing with the valvoline?

I want to run a synthetic but not sure if I trust the valvoline? And it sucks i just wasted $20 on a motorcraft oil filter to see if that was the problem... But then again my old lady has an 08 edge and I just changed her oil at 5,000 miles with the synthetic 5w20, and that was the cleanest I have ever seen oil!!!

Mdub707 04-23-2012 07:45 PM

I've had some minor sticky injectors for a while. My truck fires up great, no smoke, idles smooth, BUT, if I try taking off right away I will get a couple little skips from the sticky injectors. I was running 15w-40 rotella. Bought the Valvoline, put it in and noticeably ran crappier when first fired. It would idle ok, but the injectors had MORE stiction than before with my old worn out oil. Bought two bottles of rev-x, helped a TON, but still there...

I'm going to try some Rotella 5w-40 synthetic this next time. I wouldn't hesitate to get the valvoline either in synthetic, it's quite popular with the 6.0 crowd actually. I will see how my stiction is at that point, and then I will probably try some of that evergreen oil additive, supposed to be a little different than rev-x (some say better...) and cheaper. Just got to try it out you know?

Powerstroking814 04-23-2012 07:51 PM

You got the same symptoms, but when it's cold out I get some smoke on first start up and a little rough idle for a few seconds...But I can't get it to show up on AE!!! Definetly changing the oil soon tho... Maybe I'll try that evergreen? The 2 stroke is getting worse but I'll figure it out probilly a weak injector...

By the way sorry for stealing your tread...

Ruger5901 04-23-2012 09:40 PM

Ive been seeing a lot of guys post about using Blue synthetic...... Who makes it?? Do you still run the Motorcraft filter with it?? I already ordered the REV-X but ill try the evergreen with the blue. My wife will be left to keep the truck up while im gone. Im going to leave her a BOOK to go by because im very picky haha

The FICM was over 48V while running also

bobfbigman 04-23-2012 09:47 PM

Powerstrokin, you are the one I was thinking of when you said the 2 stroking thing.. I had the same issue, it was nasty, truck would rock side to side when it was doing that, it would miss pretty bad until up to temp but mine turned into a dead miss no matter the engine temp, I knew mine was on driver's side so I bought 4 oring kits for injectors, they were 4.67 a piece at my dealer. Pulled all 4 injectors out on driver's side and I found that #6 injector came apart, this is the second time I have had this happen, it happened to #2 the first time. There is a tiny bolt and nut that holds the mag cups/that is what I call them/ to the injector, right under the wires that go to top of injector, it uses a T10 torx and a 4mm socket. The nut just came off causing the dead miss, I think the 2 stroke thing is when the nut was just loose and the injector kinda worked but not great. I cleaned up the bolt and that area with brakeclean the I aplied red locktite to the threads and put it back together and it has ran great after putting it back together, no more truck loping or rocking back and forth on start up. I also installed the blue fuel spring at same time which couldn't hurt but the injector was the cause of the problem. My truck was made in 8-03 so they might have had a bad batch of injectors around then. I would get 8 oring kits and check it out, Sounds like I was lucky and found the nut both times sitting on the head, A Ford tech told me he has seen quite a few like that but sometimes they don't find the nut. Kinda takes some time to do the job but for $40/that includes orings for both sides/ one of the least exspensive repairs that can be done on your 6.0.

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The Evergreen is OK but I don't think it acts as fast as Revex, I had another issue going on so I can't tell you for sure how good it was as soon as I put it in but now the truck starts better than it has in a long while.

Powerstroking814 04-24-2012 06:18 AM

I'm going to try to find my thread about the 2 stroke


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