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my truck has headstuds, mbrp 4 inch turbo back, egr delete, edge juice with attitude. sometimes it idles rough and with high idle choppy. and cut out like running out of fuel. i changed oil and fuel filters and it ran perfect for a month. used rotella oil motorcraft filters. i had a power balance ran at ford came back good and they replaced icp. which i still get a code from my ae for volts to high value. ford said its the edge. oh has tuned ficm acorriding to ford. today it wouldnt start just fired died fired died fired ran rough for bit stalled. anyway when it decided to run it would idle but built no boost and bucked and surged when hit 1000-1500 rpm turbo whistles when running. i have some data from ae this morning i can post for icp v icp presure icp desired ipr % and fuel pump % and i can hook it up for other params at request because when i parked it was still acting up

How old are the batteries, and have they been load tested at all?

I would test the FICM as well.

A tuned FICM will cause the ICP readings to be off, but I can't imagine it throwing a code for that. I would check with the tuner on that myself. I wonder how Ford knows it's a tuned FICM?

Any idea what fuel pressure is?

Have you monitored the ICP readings at all?

batteries have not been load tested but hold 12 v each and 14 running ficm ck good dont have a way to test fuel pressure wish i did i will post some icp and ipr data in bit ford said ficm locked and was probably tuned

I just saw your thread on PSA and answered over there. Your readings tell me the IPR is bad/stuck. I'd pull that and inspect it. If the screen is torn or something, just replace the whole thing. Definitely sounds bad to me.

FICM Main Power (V) [40.00 - 52.00]
99.98
47.5
47.5
47.5
47.5
47.5
0
47.5
47.5
47
47.5
47.5
0
0
0
0
0
Injector Control Pressure (PSI) [0.00 - 4061.06]
0
0
57.78
43.62
182.99
3447.82
0
44.19
33.99
28.89
4061.06
0
0
0
0
0
0
Injector Control Pressure - Desired (PSI) [0.0 - 4061.1]

0
0
0
1245.8
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Injector Control Pressure Regulator (%) [0.00 - 99.61]

0
14.84
14.84
30.08
14.84
0
14.84
14.84
76.95
0
0
0
0
0
0

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k thank you ive been hunting for awhile with no anwsers and the valve was pricy so i didnt want to buy one if didnt need it. truck will be getting lot thrown at it and i wanted this fixed first i post results after replacing ipr reading when truck ran good nver went above 40% so i was ifffy what about surging and lack of boost ipr causing pro cause not runnin right

ok so i the ipr has been replaced screen came out looked ok but i replaced ipr anyway 1st run proved good didnt act up we will see in time i guess

so the ipr has been replaced and icp and the problem continues. no rev when floored no boost when driving under conditions wont rev past 1500 and high egts. also got hard to start and cranks forever then starts puffing grey smoke and eventually lits with a cloud of black smoke

So when you first start cranking it, is there any smoke? Could be a low or high pressure oil problem...

The only times I've seen actual higher than desired is when the IPR is malfunctioning. Did these problems arise right after you did some work to the truck or did they come out of the blue? I've heard of guys having to replace one or two IPR's after doing some high pressure oil pump swaps.

Seem to have come out of blue. Truck doesn't smoke right away when crankin. I'm wondering if they put an 03 04 ipr instead of a 04.5 up. Since my truck has icp on valve cover. Also pours black smoke when icp is unplugged

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also after sitting two weeks it wouldnt start for min or two and i swore to get rid of it and she lit. go figure and that was after ipr was replace

Sounds like it may be a high pressure oil problem, or possibly even a low pressure. When you're cranking and not getting smoke right away, does the oil pressure gauge on the dash come up at all? Do you start getting smoke just as that is coming up? Might have an issue with oil here.

When's the last time the oil was changed? What oil was used and what oil filter was used?

Last time fuel filters were changed, and what filters?

Are you able to check fuel pressure too? Get a cheap gauge from harbor freight, hook it up to the fuel bowl, run it out under the back of the hood and put it on the windshield, hold it down with the wiper so you can see it.

Do you have a receipt for the IPR they put in, we can cross check the P/N's...

i will have to ck oil pressure gauge and smoke oil change 2000 miles ago napa oil filter and rotella oil. motorcraft fuel filters same time both pump and bowl wil be changing oil filter to motorcraft to eliminate possiblity i will get a cheap gauge from harbor frieght and check it. no receipt for ipr but feel certain it is for an 03 04 cause they used truck year not motor was little garage also i can hook up my ae if some paramaters will help

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do you have a shop or sell parts?

ok so when i go to start it the gauge moves very little after waiting between cranking and cycling glow plugs gauge went to middle and started smoking whitish grey smoke then eventually lit. i ran it home and it ran great started it few hours later and gauge moved very little but she lit right up but hesitated at 2200 rpm like dropped all boost and high egts then fuel pressure gauge was on back order i got and in the cab one on order

so my motor is an 04 with the icp on valve cover but research ive found mine is 560 torque 325 hp in 04 they moved icp to valve and 05 changed hpop and torque to 575so is mine an 03 04 hpop with icp on valve cover i assume. so ipr was replaced with right one an 03? y all the sudden hard starts though with new ipr? never had this hard of problem starting the truck thats the only syptom that is new

there are several configurations for 04 from what i have found out, there is acctually an early,mid,late. the late ones from my reading have the new pump, basically you have to look at the pump cover,if its cat iron its the old pump style, if its aluminum it will have the top of the pump coming through the top of it and thats the new one, google images of HPOP and you will see the different types of covers.
1/old pump,icp on pump
2/old pump/ icp on valve cover
3/new pump,icp on valve cover

ok so i unplugged my edge to eliminate it as a cause of problems while driving my truck the engine light came on. checked the codes po683, po670,po237, p2616, po276, po282, po401, po500, po603 glow plug, camshaft sensor, turbo sensor, cylinder 6,8 circut low, egr, vss, icm kam what do all these have in common or with my issue. is my pcm bad? where to start?

P0683 - glow plug control module to PCM communication circuit open circuit, short to voltage, short to ground, possible faulty PCM

P0670 - glow plug control module circuit short to voltage, short to ground, open circuit

P0237 - turbo boost sensor circuit low, circuit open, short to ground, faulty sensor

P2616 - camshaft position signal output circuit high

P0276 - injector #6 circuit low/open circuit

P0282 - injector #8 circuit low/open circuit

P0401 - EGR flow insufficient

P0500 - VSS vehicle speed sensor faulty

P0603 - PCM KAM (keep alive memory, probably from unloading your Edge)




Sounds more like you have a multitude of separate issues. I'd start by testing the GPCM (glow plug control module), that will likely ease the hard starts and rough idles. Also just reading this over again, did you ever get rid of the napa oil filter, they've been known to cause headaches. Especially since you say the oil pressure gauge comes up really slow as you're cranking... is that right? The camshaft sensor code is probably falsely thrown from cranking so much. Could be something, probably not. Doesn't matter, we don't need a proper signal from the camshaft to run anyways. The turbo sensor... your turbo probably just needs a cleaning/reconditioning. (check here: DTS Articles - Turbocharger Reconditioning ) The VSS is odd, but I'd clean it. It's the sensor on top of the rear diff. Remove it, clean it, try again. EGR flow is obviously from your delete, no worries there. The two injectors though... tough one. They might be bad, they might not. If you haven't swapped that oil filter, start there. You should only be using motorcraft oil filters. (or in this case, FRAM are ok, they're the same thing).

thank you for your reply i will clean sensors and turbo and change oil filter. i generally only have little oil pressure till she lights then rockets to normal. how do you test glow plug module? or is this a ford tech deal?

I've got the test specs at work for that I'll post tomorrow. That oil filter needs to come of asap. I've seen 6.0s destroyed from stone of the non OEM oil filters.

ok so im taking of turbo to clean it. having trouble everything is loose and turbo prys up but wont seem break free dunno if up pipes or down is holding it seems those are places its holding clamp is off back but i didnt loosen manifold up pipes should i do this to move up pipe back off turbo? i found a loose valve cover bolt back one drivers side would this have caused problem? there is coat of oil on turbo on the compressed side dunno if feed line is bad its right under it but line doesnt seem to be leaking. vally under turbo is oily too dunno where coming from

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while i have turbo and boost tubes out of way should i take top off oil cooler and ck screen and order rebuild kit and eliminate that as issue of my problems? or dont spend money if its not broke or ck filter and put gasket in if screen ok?

you just have to make sure the clamps are all the way off the joint, the drain tube might hold you up a little, some times you just have to give it a good tug to pop it free. Always want to pull it up and to passenger side then you can kind of roll it out

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The oil cooler doesn't have a screen, in order to take oil cooler out you would have to take the intake off, if the cooler has never been replaced and unless it had a coolant filter installed at factory it is most likely clogged up pretty good. It might be a good idea to go ahead and replace the cooler while you are in there. Hot oil can cause things to not operate like they should.

ok so i got turbo out cleaned it reinstalled it and she lit fine. warm day didnt test glow plug module can on my ae i believe later. anyway i think the vgt solenoid is bad because it idled fine but under throttle no boost and a clanking vibtating sound and boost leak sound but no boost leak. you can hear whistle and no boost also when apart i could only move vanes with ring in middle of motion when complety closed or open it stuck i would have to remove ring and move actuator. is that normal?

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i also reset engine codes and the only one that came back is the cam sensor. i have icp desired actual and ipr if interested while truck is not boosting and acting up

so i took my truck to little power shop and will update what they find