Fuel filter change tricks and tips for the 6.0 powerstroke
 

Fuel filter changes are something most diesel guys will experience on their trucks at some point or another. Anyways, here's some quick little tips to make the change a little easier on a 6.0 powerstroke, and a way to save some money!

EDIT* The new P/N for the filters from International is 1847170C94

If you go to Ford to order your filters you'll quickly learn they're over $100. You can also get Motorcraft filters from Advanced Auto for about $55. Other than Ford filters you really need to be careful what you're buying, a lot of the aftermarket units do not have the water membrane on the frame filter. So it is recommended to use the Ford filters (also to avoid warranty issues, not that you'd need those with a 6.0 haha) Anyways... what a lot of Ford dealers dont want you knowing is the same filters they sell at their parts counter can be had at the International dealer for a lot less. Once customers found this out, Ford had International change their part numbers. So using the old part number your International guy will ask you if you have a Ford, and then tell you they cant sell you those filters. Change the last digit on the P/N from a 2 to a 3, and whala, you can get the International filters. The new P/N is 1847170C93 (the old number is 1847170C92, and some International shops that dont sell a lot of these may have the old part number on the shelfs still...) These international filters retail from $33-$40. I got mine for $37.50, plus shipping, but we buy in bulk to save... THIS IS THE EXACT SAME FILTER SET AS THE FORD DEALERSHIP HAS AND SELLS FOR A MASSIVE PROFIT!

Here's a pic of the P/N from the International filter box:
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Now a trick to make your fuel filter changes easier and quicker (which comes in handy in emergency situations and you're lacking tools...)

On the frame mounted filter, there is a plug for the water drain. This plug is a PITA to get at, and requires an allen wrench that is small enough to squeeze between the pump and the driveshaft for the front. International sells a brass plug with a knurled knob on the end for finger tight removal and installation. It also has an "extension" so when its unscrewed to drain, it doesn't fall out. This plug retails from International for ~ $14.50

Here's a pic of the brass plug...
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You can see it comes with a new rubber o-ring as well.

Here's a comparison to the factory cast plug...
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Here's the P/N for the brass plug!

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Enjoy!

Nice, same filters and cheaper price is always good in my book.

Thanks for the info, I'm letting you know, I want in. That plug will be great. What do you need from me?
Chip:rocking:

Good deal! I will definitely be contacting you when I get home from deployment
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I copied this off of a local forum I posted it on. No need to get it from me guys, it wouldn't make sense.

I have since got the FORD part number for that knurled brass knob, so I can get that for you.

As far as the filters, your best bet is to just go to the local international shop. :c:

I wouldn't save you anything once we paid for shipping for everyone.

Awesome stuff, but if I ever get my 6.0 running I will try It ha ha!! :jump:

P/N for knurled brass Knob: 6E7Z-9C082-A

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Just talked to international about these and apparently they've changed the filter kit part # to 1847170C94, was 93

Right, I believe Ford told them to do this, because too many people were catching on and stopped buying the $115 filters from Ford. They may even ask you what it's for, and I'm quite certain they have something that pops up on their screen that says they wont work for 6.0 powerstrokes, but it's all BS. Thanks for the P/N update! I'll fix the original post now. Appreciate it!

Just spoke with the local IH dealer - They can't look it up with that number - need to use the other number shown on the box

2589259C91


Parts guy told me IH number almost always ends with a letter followed by two numbers

Also the fuel filters are $40.00

The number on the box is the IH number yes, the number I provided was for a Ford parts counter :tu:

The filters vary in price by how many you get and where you get them. I've paid around $35-$37 on avg, but I have also bought a box of them for as little as $23 a set before. $40 still beats Ford's price of $115...

Picked up my filter and knurled knob from the local IH dealer. He asked if it was for my Ford and I said it was. His comment was a lot of people don't know the little secret about the big price savings buying from International. :jump:

Thanks Mdub707 for this money saving tip !!

Just spoke with IH dealer. They said they would sell me the fuel filter, but wouldn't recommend it. They said there were a few guys there that had 6.0's and they didnt use them. Reason being is that the Ford filter has a "lip" on it that the IH filter does not, and if you don't get it on just right dirt will enter into system. Thoughts? Any experiences with this?

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Also spoke with them about the brass plug with the nurled knob. They said they didn't sell any part like that. Gave them part number and everything.

Sounds like they have no clue what they're talking about. Somewhat.

They do sell the brass plug, because that's where I got mine from. You can also get it from Ford now too with the Ford P/N. 6E7Z-9C082-A

The international filters are the same as the old style Ford one's. Ford did redesign them and the lower filter for the HFCM has a lip and an o-ring on it now to prevent anything from going by as it becomes plugged. This drops fuel pressure, thus why Ford released that blue spring upgrade and didn't tell anyone about it.

I specifically still order mine from International to get the old style filters, as I prefer the slightly higher fuel pressure. As long as you're changing your filters in the normal time alotted, there should be no issue. Even if anything got by that filter, the filter up on top of the engine would surely catch it. I believe it's like a 2 micron filter up top. Nothing is getting by that.

Just need to find a Inernational Dealer, We paid 89 Bucks for Napa Golds

Thanks for the info. I have tried to open the plug on mine to bleed off the water, and literaly bent an allen key.Never did get it open. Does this kit include both fuel filters? any ideas as to possibility of the water in fuel message coming on? Once cleared when truck is running, it does not come back. THink that this sensor may be bad? Any ideas?

Both fuel filters come in those boxes yes. Well if you can't drain the water, that's probably why you're getting water in fuel light. Need to get that figured out somehow...

I don't understand the filters costing over $100 at dealers. I believe the Ford suggested price for them is $64.27, and that is what my local dealer charges for them. I need to get one of those plugs though.

you can find them on ebay for $25, the stock steel pos sells for $15

That could be, I haven't checked in years. When I first got my truck I know the local dealer had them for over $100.

The steel pos? Huh?:humm: As for the ebay one's, what filters are those? Fuel filters are one thing we really need to be careful on, a lot of the aftermarket units don't have the water membrane for water separation. I'm sure you know this, more of a general statement for everyone.

DER DA DER, I was talking about his last statement, the plug for water seperator, TGIF

Ahhhhh lol. Yeah I've got a Ford P/N for that thing now somewhere too. Last time my truck was in for warranty work, they replaced the fuel pump and the new one of course was missing my brass plug. Jerks. Already ordered another...

Well DER DA DER to you as well! This is what I was referring to:

"Fuel filter changes are something most diesel guys will experience on their trucks at some point or another. Anyways, here's some quick little tips to make the change a little easier on a 6.0 powerstroke, and a way to save some money!

EDIT* The new P/N for the filters from International is 1847170C94

If you go to Ford to order your filters you'll quickly learn they're over $100"

And it wasn't you that said it bobfbigman.

I guess I should have quoted Mdub, I was showing him where you were talking about the plug, he thought I was talking about filters for $25 so that is why I gave him the DER DA DER:w2:

DER DA DER sounds pretty happy bob, I like the sound of it!

Fuel Filters and Drain PLug replacement
 

Hello! I'm new to the Forum, but am in need of help in a hurry.

You mention going to "International" for these parts. Can you tell me specifically who you go to...website? phone? I don't see anything on the International Truck Site.

Thanks for your really valuable and helpful info. I look forward to participating in this site.

Any IH dealer should be able to help you out. Who ever is local to you. I didn't have them in stock until I read up on this thread. Awesome info guys!!!!

Hi newbie to site and I just went to the international dealer here in town ordered this brass plug and it was here in two days. thanks again for this info. Next time I go to drain the water should be a whole bunch easier.

You can get the brass plug from either international, or you can actually get them at your local Ford dealer now too!

6E7Z-9C082-A It lists for ~$17, Tousley has it for $11. :c:

if your ih dealer gives you crap tell them you need the filters for a vt365 aka 6.0 powerstroke. Some parts guys are ignorant to the fact they are the same. If you have a good friend with a heavy truck shop they may sell to you at their cost I have my own shop and pay 25 bucks for these filters from my ih dealer. Told local ford dealer and they were pissed, but who cares!

ford 6 litre desiel
 

My air conditioning quit! Blows air ambeint temp but no cold. Tried recharge kit, will not take charge. Any help pls.

probably the ac clutch, do you hear it pull in??

Come to think of it, no I do not hear it, is this repair serious coin?

When you say "it won't take a charge" do you mean that it won't fill anymore because it's already topped off? Or that it won't build pressure at all?

If it's topped off then it could be something as simple as a blown fuse for the clutch. If it won't build pressure then that means there's a leak and a shop is the only way to really find out how bad it is.

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FYI the clutch won't engage if there's no static pressure, the refrigerant is the lubricant for the compressor

On my pressure recharge guage it read over 40 PSI right from the start and when I turned on the AC it eventually settled in at about 65 PSI, so I presume that there is plenty of refrigerant in the system. I will check for blown fuses (would be that so simple). I do not undestand "if there is no static pressure" ?

I mean that there's a sensor inside the system and if there isn't enough pressure inside the lines, the compressor won't kick in

To Diesel Daddy6.0
Thank you, Thank you. Can't thank you enough. Blown Fuse!. Went through all the diagrams fuse box by the brake peddle, no mention of any airconditioning. Started to look at the power box under the hood left side by fender. Well, confusion rained supreme!Needless to say diagram useless. So I started to pull the small fuses - lo and behold one burnt 10 amp number 3 position. Look at diagram YEA - Daytime Running Light DRL and AC Clutch. Replaced fuse - life is good AC kicked in immed. Excellent forum, keep up the good threads
Leo

No worries, that's what we're here for, to get guidance from those who have been there and to give advice from our experiences. In the future rather than pulling each and every fuse, use a multi-meter and check the resistance of the fuse by touching the leads on the small metal pieces on the top of the fuse above either pole.

If your local Ford dealer says the brass plug does not exist, tell them you need the part for a Ford LCF (Low Cab Forward) box truck. That is what Ford installs it in.

anyone use baldwin filters? I used to use them in my Cummins all the time and they were of great quality.