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piperca 01-30-2011 04:12 PM

2007 Powerstroke reliability?
 
I'm looking at buying a 2007 Powerstroke and need some advice. I love the Ford body style, but I cringe at the horror stories of the 6.0 engine. I was hoping that Ford had figured the problems out by 2007, but I'm noticing a few dealers that are selling "buy back" vehicles of this vintage. What the hell? Is this engine just a doomed project altogether?

I don't intend on adding any performance modifications. I need it to tow my 10,000lbs boat/trailer rig, the rest of the time my wife will be driving it to and from work.

Can someone provide me with the real 411 on this vehicle?

Hegel122 01-30-2011 04:25 PM

if you do a couple preventitive things to these trucks they are extremely reliable...

piperca 01-30-2011 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Hegel122 (Post 699272)
if you do a couple preventitive things to these trucks they are extremely reliable...

Okay ... do I have to join a secret club to find out what these preventative measures are? :w2:

Sorry, couldn't resist ... :tttt::moon:

tiremann9669 01-30-2011 06:49 PM

You can find anything you want to know by reading the 6.0 section of this site. :c:

LORDDiESEL 01-30-2011 06:56 PM

Nothing wrong with these engines once you fix a couple things.

piperca 01-30-2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by LORDDiESEL (Post 699359)
Nothing wrong with these engines once you fix a couple things.

You have got to be kidding me!

Okay, I'll go elsewhere for my information ... thanks! :argh:

Diesel_Daddy6.0 01-30-2011 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by piperca (Post 699378)
You have got to be kidding me!

Okay, I'll go elsewhere for my information ... thanks! :argh:

EGR system leaves a lot to be desired. If you are in a state that doesn't require a smog inspection then get a delete kit for a couple hundred bucks, if you are in a nazi state such as CA like I am, buy a BulletProof EGR cooler, you will be glad you did. Another flaw is the heads, regardless of state do the ARP head studs. Ford fix most of the issues by 2007 but those 2 still remain. With studs and EGR taken care of the trucks are very reliable and you can actually start making some good HP/TQ numbers.

piperca 01-30-2011 09:15 PM

Thanks for the insight.

Yes, I'm in CA also, so the EGR upgrade is something I could live with. However, the head issue is another thing altogether. What exactly is the issue with the heads? As I said in my initial post, I don't intend on adding any aftermarket performance to the truck. Will I still need to do the ARP studs?

The truck I am looking at has had a coolant issue in the past. According to the dealer, the intake gasket was replaced. I'm assuming this is EGR related? The truck has only 54K miles on it.

I took a chance on the vehicle I have now, since it has the dreaded 53 block, but I've got 167K out of her, so far, without any issue. I really don't want to dance with the devil a second time, if I can avoid it, since it's only a matter of time before he wins!

Diesel_Daddy6.0 01-30-2011 09:28 PM

The studs are a good idea regardless of plans for the truck. Thr factory head bolts that are put on the truck don't have the holding power and tend to stretch an cause the gaskets to blow even on trucks that are running stock boost.

piperca 01-30-2011 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Diesel_Daddy6.0 (Post 699493)
The studs are a good idea regardless of plans for the truck. Thr factory head bolts that are put on the truck don't have the holding power and tend to stretch an cause the gaskets to blow even on trucks that are running stock boost.

If that's the case, that might be the deciding factor in my decision ... thanks!

95powersmoker 01-30-2011 11:03 PM

Head gaskets, studs and EGR delete would make for a pretty reliable truck.

Mdub707 01-31-2011 08:51 AM

Do the bulletproof egr cooler, add a coolant filter setup from dieselsite.com, put some gauges in it including Fuel pressure gauge (most important thing to put on a 6.0 hands down), then coolant temp gauge and oil temp gauge. I'd leave the stock head bolts in if you're running stock power, and if it does end up blowing some where down the road, you can put ARP's in at that point, but if you plan to stay stock I wouldn't worry about it right now. Coolant temp and oil temp are good to monitor, since it will tell you if your oil cooler is getting plugged, which leads to the issues state above. The coolant filter will also help prevent it getting clogged in the first place. Do some reading around the site, you're going to get the same answers everywhere. These very questions get asked multiple times a week and sometimes guys just get tired of answering the same ones over and over, so don't take it to heart. The info is here, use the search button at the top of the page.

piperca 01-31-2011 10:26 PM

Thanks for the information, guys, but I think I might just spend the extra couple of thousand dollars on a newer 6.7 Cummins. I think, ultimately, the few dollars I would have saved buying the Ford will be spent keeping her running. I'm getting too long in the tooth to be chasing problems. I've been there, done that, with my current truck's fuel system, and I'm over it. I can't see the point in buying into something that has a high probability of causing me heartache.

Good luck to you all and I hope you all have many problem-free years of diesel ownership! :c:

Hegel122 02-01-2011 12:10 AM

if your going to get a cummins get the 5.9 not the 6.7

Mdub707 02-01-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by piperca (Post 700359)
Thanks for the information, guys, but I think I might just spend the extra couple of thousand dollars on a newer 6.7 Cummins. I think, ultimately, the few dollars I would have saved buying the Ford will be spent keeping her running. I'm getting too long in the tooth to be chasing problems. I've been there, done that, with my current truck's fuel system, and I'm over it. I can't see the point in buying into something that has a high probability of causing me heartache.

Good luck to you all and I hope you all have many problem-free years of diesel ownership! :c:


This is the most contradicting thing I think I've read on this site! Have you researched the 6.7 cummins at all? They have the most problematic egr and dpf system of any of the newer trucks.

I agree, if you want a Dodge, get a 5.9 commonrail. I'd take a 6.0 over a 6.7 cummins as of now.

spelt22000 02-01-2011 01:36 PM

Wow!!

The 6.0 really does have a terrible rep, huh? Well, I've had my 07 for a while now and the thing runs like a champ.. ZERO complaints outta me here!!

I think you just have to keep an open mind when dealing with anything mechanical period..

Just a thought..

ranger518 02-01-2011 09:22 PM

Ya I don't like the 6.7 my buddy has had alot more problems then I have had with my 06 6.0 the. 5.9 are good as long as you don't mind a truck that rattles everthing and my other friend can't keep gears in his I think he is on his 2 compleat rear end. Every truck has some down fall with them.

jimrd 02-02-2011 07:24 AM

i think with any vehicle if you do routine maintenance it will last and be reliable
the tranny oil allways seems to be over looked along with all the fluids...

I have been changing the oil every 5000 miles using Ford 10 30 in winter and Rotella in summer and have changed the tranny oil every 30K...

Also adding the air dog two for filteration and water removal

The coolant filter kit

I was looking for 2008 but that engine only was used for a couple of years

The only thing i do not like is the fuel mileage:tu:

piperca 02-02-2011 06:50 PM

I stand corrected; I certainly didn't do my research on the new Dodge, before making my prior statement. It looks like a 2006 or early 2007 5.9 will be in order. You are right about the 6.7, seems to be another problem area.

Please don't think I'm slamming your trucks in any way. You guys just took a jump that I'm not prepared to do. I want a diesel to do what it's supposed to do, right out of the box. If I can't comfortably tow my 10,000lbs worth of boat/trailer, then what's the point in buying a diesel? I shouldn't have to purchase a diesel truck that I know needs upgrades to do the job it is supposed to do. I am just not prepared to get into something that is going to prove to be a can of worms. Granted, there are a lot of 6.0 owners out there that have had trouble-free trucks, but it's a toss of the coin.

Mdub707 02-03-2011 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by piperca (Post 701820)
I stand corrected; I certainly didn't do my research on the new Dodge, before making my prior statement. It looks like a 2006 or early 2007 5.9 will be in order. You are right about the 6.7, seems to be another problem area.

Please don't think I'm slamming your trucks in any way. You guys just took a jump that I'm not prepared to do. I want a diesel to do what it's supposed to do, right out of the box. If I can't comfortably tow my 10,000lbs worth of boat/trailer, then what's the point in buying a diesel? I shouldn't have to purchase a diesel truck that I know needs upgrades to do the job it is supposed to do. I am just not prepared to get into something that is going to prove to be a can of worms. Granted, there are a lot of 6.0 owners out there that have had trouble-free trucks, but it's a toss of the coin.


We're not offended in any way. I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought mine (kind of...). They ALL have their problems though, so don't think any of them are going to last forever. At least with a 5.9 commonrail you wont have to worry TOO much about motor stuff, just trannies in those trucks suck. Definitely get a manual. I believe the common rail cummins had issues with #2 fuel line cracking randomly, just research it before committing, it's a cheap and easy fix though.

piperca 02-03-2011 06:33 PM

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Thanks.

I'm still researching my alternatives. I came across some really good information that I'd like to share with you. It's of a website I stumbled across. I cut and pasted it into the following document, since I thought it would make an excellent sticky and, maybe, stop people like me asking redundant questions. Maybe the moderator can review it and make sure it's within your forum rules.

Here you go:

ranger518 02-03-2011 07:59 PM

Good info in the attachedment

piperca 02-06-2011 11:43 PM

Like I said, I'm still looking, but I haven't given up on the 6.0 quite yet.

I wonder if someone would tell me how to get an OASIS report on a vehicle? I am looking at an 06 that has been meticulously maintained ... every 5K at the same Ford dealership. It's a one owner truck.

According to the Carfax, the engine was removed for repair around 50K. Why would they need to remove the engine? There are also a lot of entries that mention charging system checked, engine module checked and, just before it was traded in, coolant system checked.

Would an OASIS report give details about each time the vehicle was in the dealership for service or just general information, as is on Carfax? Would the dealership give me this information without me owning the vehicle?

I'm not sure if someone on here has access to OASIS, but here's the VIN, just in case: 1FTSW21P16ED40932. I'd appreciate it if someone would run it and let me know if there have been major issues with this vehicle ... she's very nice and I'd really like to own her!

Mdub707 02-07-2011 07:22 AM

Just go to the dealer, they should be able to run it for you. As for engine removal, could have just needed a seal, who knows. Some tech's take the engine out, the others remove the cab... pick your poison! Cab removal is easier in most cases though. As for checking the charging system, ECM and coolant system, probably just standard checks they do when it's in for service.

piperca 02-07-2011 12:02 PM

Just called them and the douche bags will not run a report for me. They said it is privileged information for the owner only ... what bullshit! I guess, since I'm not buying from them, they are screwing with me. Any ideas?

Mdub707 02-07-2011 12:23 PM

Have the guy who is selling the truck provide it then. If it's a dealer selling it, they usually will provide one if you ask, since you are the potential new owner. If this is private party just ask the guy who owns it now to do so.

piperca 02-07-2011 01:13 PM

Ironically, it's a Dodge dealer that's selling it. I'm going over there this afternoon, so I'll ask.

spelt22000 02-07-2011 05:22 PM

That is a load of crap!!! I bought mine from a private owner and the garage that the truck was taken to provided me with all the info. Call another dealer and if they won't provide any info then call Ford and raise hell!!!:scare2: That is partially why there is an Oasis report not only to track the work done but for potential resale

piperca 02-07-2011 06:01 PM

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I went down and looked at the truck. It's in real nice shape. I had the salesperson call the Ford dealership to ask them to fax over the OASIS. Well, we received the first page only. Twice they tried, but same thing happened. Anyway, the salesperson, by chance, used to work at the Ford dealership, so he called over and got some information over the telephone. On 09-27-10 (at 95K miles/currently has 101K), the truck's cooling system was repaired; EGR, head gasket, etc. I didn't get much more information than that. The Carfax shows the turbo was replaced about 10K before that. I'm not sure what else is on the OASIS.

As I said, the vehicle was meticulously cared for at the same Ford dealership, since the original and only owner took possession. The truck will have a 3 month/3000 mile warranty from the pre-owned dealership. The dealership is also giving me a "borrowers" contract this Thursday, so I can take it home and let the wife drive it around the neighborhood ... it's a beast! Crew cab with the long bed ... much bigger than my Dodge.

I wish I had the full OASIS, but I guess that's not going to happen. What do you think? Based on this, does anyone have any advice?

Oh, almost forgot photos!

Mdub707 02-07-2011 07:49 PM

oasis only covers warranty work, so only up to 100k miles... if you got up to 95k miles, I doubt there is much after that...

If you like it, buy it. Looks nice. CC/LB need big wheels/tires/lift to look right! haha.

spelt22000 02-08-2011 07:41 AM

Nice ride... Looks like its missing the "chrome package"?? Strange for a King Ranch not to have this add on!!
Would it be to much to ask what the selling price is? Just Curious... I bought mine in Sept of 2010 with 20,000mi (07) showroom condition for 33 from private owner but i see more and more of these trucks on the lots now than i did back prior to my purchase.
Used trucks are through the roof and have been for a while now but i'm wondering if i'm seeing more on the lots due to the potential huge fuel price increase on the horizon?

Mdub707 02-08-2011 08:09 AM

Private sale 6.0's around here are the same or cheaper than 7.3's with more miles and 5 years older...

My buddy bought a 05 CC/LB Lariat with 170k on it for $13k. I see 7.3's from 2000 going for that price...

Hegel122 02-08-2011 03:07 PM

i picked up my 04 for 16 with 160k on it

piperca 02-08-2011 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by spelt22000 (Post 705049)
Would it be to much to ask what the selling price is?

$20,994 is what they're asking. What is the chrome package?

ranger518 02-08-2011 06:56 PM

Nice looking truck good thing it does not have the rear bucket seats buddy has one with it and he hates it. I have never seen a king ranch with chrome package from the factory always just seen the king ranches with everthing painted to match the truck. They do make a f-250 chrome edition and a F-250 platinum edition.

piperca 02-08-2011 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by ranger518 (Post 705496)
Nice looking truck good thing it does not have the rear bucket seats buddy has one with it and he hates it. I have never seen a king ranch with chrome package from the factory always just seen the king ranches with everthing painted to match the truck. They do make a f-250 chrome edition and a F-250 platinum edition.

I was doing some research and the only thing I can find on the chrome package is that it is/was an option on the Lariat ... nothing about the King Ranch.

Question: When the head gasket and EGR cooler are replaced, is the oil cooler done at the same time? I was watching some videos by Bullet Proof Diesel, which said that is how it SHOULD be done, but is that what Ford does?

ranger518 02-08-2011 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by piperca (Post 705507)
I was doing some research and the only thing I can find on the chrome package is that it is/was an option on the Lariat ... nothing about the King Ranch.

Question: When the head gasket and EGR cooler are replaced, is the oil cooler done at the same time? I was watching some videos by Bullet Proof Diesel, which said that is how it SHOULD be done, but is that what Ford does?

At first ford did not requir the oil cooler to be changed but then they changed it to where if one goes out they replace the oil and egr cooler but not sbure when they changed it.

piperca 02-08-2011 08:34 PM

Now I want to see the OASIS to make sure it was done ... damn, need to get it somehow!

ranger518 02-08-2011 09:40 PM

Try this for the OASIS

http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forum...play.php?f=103

piperca 02-08-2011 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by ranger518 (Post 705631)

Thanks, man ... I posted a request!


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