20 dollars to whoever figures this one out
2004 f-250 6.0 diesel
will turn over want crank problem It Had the p2285 code so i replaced icp sensor and ipr code is gone Had bad wireing to boost sensor repair that and replaced boost sensor The owner before me replaced cam senor it was bent so i replaced that then i replaced the crank sensor still no luck then last thing i thought it could be is the idm replaced that other checks i did i checked the fuel for contaminents fuels good and pressure good checked oil pressure put a gauge will 400 psi it tached out had a battery charger on it eliminates the battery problem took air filter out elimnates a bad air filter no fault codes anymore fuel in the top fuel filter what else can i do to it Steven Carroll If you could give me a call 205-299-1911 |
Injector wiring harness:humm:, I dont know if the 6.0's had the same problem as the 7.3 with them working loose but its something to check out
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does that not bring up a code
---AutoMerged DoublePost--- i replaced one of them the other day this thing just cut off a never started back up |
i dont think so, im no ford guy though so dont quote me...
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it was on a 7.3 though
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I'm not much of a Ford guy, but I've been told the Fuel Injection Control Module (FICM) can be problematic in the 2003-2004 6.0L Powerstrokes.
Found this from last month's Diesel Power magazine and after a little research, found out a burnt FICM can, and will, cause a sudden "no start" stiuation. Don't know. Maybe something to check into?? The '03 model years seemed to have had the worst fuel injection control module (FICM) issues. Apparently a lot of '03 model trucks came back to the dealer for FICM reflashing when a pilot injection feature, which was intended to reduce engine noise and improve emissions, would create timing problems on hot start-ups. The result of this was a rough-running, loping idle. Later-model 6.0L FICM calibrations didn't have this pilot injection feature. Another issue, which can happen to any model year 6.0L, is that the internal circuit boards in the FICM burn up--and FICM's aren't cheap. Notice the designation written on the FICM in this photo (Bad). http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/16...rol_module.jpg |
ficm ya it used to be called idm but i replaced it
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Its a ford.
I'll take payment in beer :tttt: |
good one is that the big blue oval shape that has f o r d in it :ok1:
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hpop problem??
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If you can get a datalogger on it to get all the pid data I'd like to see all the numbers it produces.
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you sure the fuel supply is there? does the truck have a metal or plastic fuel tank ? many of the trucks with metal fuel tanks are having troubles delaminating the coatings inside them, really screws up the whole injection system....... all pumps along the way are usually garbage.
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hey steven, get ahold of brian or cale at brians truck shop. there number is 870-422-3673
good luck with the hunt. :c: |
Check key on fuel pressure, check cranking ICP pressure, Do a buzz test, Do a GPC test... Report back...
Your not giving anyone any info to work with!:ok1: |
it is common for the hi pressure oil fitting to blow out the o-ring seal then the oil just dumps back into the engine on the 03 - 05 powerstrokes. normally it will throw a 2290 or 2291 icp pressure low code ford has a revised part for that problem you say you get 400 psi at cranking should be 500 plus. i would think a little either spray would get you to 500 psi and she may start. old part # on the fitting is w301727 it has been updated to a kit.
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Originally Posted by bluedog
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it is common for the hi pressure oil fitting to blow out the o-ring seal then the oil just dumps back into the engine on the 03 - 05 powerstrokes. normally it will throw a 2290 or 2291 icp pressure low code ford has a revised part for that problem you say you get 400 psi at cranking should be 500 plus. i would think a little either spray would get you to 500 psi and she may start. old part # on the fitting is w301727 it has been updated to a kit.
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sprayer b-12 in the intake and see if its starts. when it does you probaly have a high presure oil leak like from the high presure fitting, stand pipe o-rings branch tube etc
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Agree jus got my 05 back and it had these seals bad it has to have 500 lbs or better to fire you can test yer hi pressure with air its a place to start
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Im not trying to sound stupid here (you have probably thought about it already) but have you check to make sure there isnt any fuses blown. If you had a sensor sort out or something it could have blown a fuse.
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Originally Posted by bluedog
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it is common for the hi pressure oil fitting to blow out the o-ring seal then the oil just dumps back into the engine on the 03 - 05 powerstrokes. normally it will throw a 2290 or 2291 icp pressure low code ford has a revised part for that problem you say you get 400 psi at cranking should be 500 plus. i would think a little either spray would get you to 500 psi and she may start. old part # on the fitting is w301727 it has been updated to a kit.
---AutoMerged DoublePost--- new part # 4c3z9b246b $30.60 hope this helps If it has an 04 motor in it, this doesn't apply. The STC fitting did come about until the 05 MY. This engine will still have the cast iron HPOP cover. (Assuming it's an 04 or 03 engine in an 04 truck) Is the ICP mounted to the valve cover or the HPOP cover since you don't want to give me your phone number to call you and help you figure this out. |
Originally Posted by stkdram55
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i dont think so, im no ford guy though so dont quote me...
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Originally Posted by Mikes Truck Repair
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ficm ya it used to be called idm but i replaced it
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check throttle position sensor. sensor should read 0% with no depression on the pedal, try holding the pedal at say 25 or 50% so the computer gets a reading from the sensor. use a graphing scan tool, if the scantool still reads 0% with the key on and the pedal down then replace the TPS :U:
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STOP POSTING INFORMATION THAT DOES NOT HELP.
THERE IS NO THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR ON A 6.0 DIESEL. THERE IS AN ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR. |
New to Diesel bombers;
:humm: Hey "Big Angry Hillbilly", being a 'stroker tech, maybe you can help me. My '04 6.0 just started this "thing". After a cold start, the truck surged up, what I mean is, the throttle acted like I had pedled the throttle. It went from the norm 600/700rpm to 1100/1200 rpm, held for a few, then dropped back down. Done it a couple of times. Today, did it again, only this time, did it at a stop light about a mile from home, surged up, stuttered then died. Started right back up, ran OK for next couple of miles & back home. I live in N. Ca, weather is HOT!!! Could this be the ICP ?? Codes from Superchips tuner are: P0403; EGR circ. error, (had ERG unplugged) P0405; EGR sens. A circ low P1000; Monitor checks not complete P2285; Injector ctrl pressure sens. circ. low P0603; Internal ctrl mod kam error :baby: Thanks |
Is the ICP in the valve cover or under the turbo?
Sounds like an ICP issue to me at first glance - moreso if it's under the turbo. |
Would that be the ICP on the passenger side valve cover, with 1 black and 1 green plug in it ?
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Nope that's the glow plug control module. Those plugs, are they facing the firewall or the right side fender?
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facing the passenger side fender
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Your ICP is underneath the turbocharger.
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Originally Posted by Big Angry Hillbilly
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Your ICP is underneath the turbocharger.
I have found the son of a B....!! What a joke this thing is. I wonder why, if it's been moved for the later model engine, why is there no way to retrofit to a new and better location on earlier engines?? Seems the heat from the turbo is mostly the cause of the ICP going bad, so why can't it be relocated to some where else? I would think that would be an after market "kit" that surely would sell..:ouch::rocking: Again, thank you for your help. Buddy "dieseldad" |
You could probably move it to the valve cover, but the cost would likely offset the rewards. You'd need to replace the oil rail(s), valve cover, standpipe, bracket for the GPCM....and this is just off the top of my head.
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