6.0 Problems
 

I would like to know what kind of problems that the 6.0 has my brother in law is looking at one and has herd horror stories I know that ford had some kind of insetive plan for trade in on this engine.just looking for some answers

Depneding on the year....

03's had some bad injectors

03-early 06 like to stretch headbolts. Head studs are common upgrade for a 6.0

03-07 should have a coolant filter as there seems to have been gunk left in the passages from the casting process. this gunk seem to break loose at times and clog in the oil cooler causing some coolant puking.

03 - early 06 EGR coolers have been known to crack. This may also be a continuing issue with the later 06 and 07 trucks too.

All will need periodic EGR cleaning

ICP sensors seem to be common complaints on these trucks.

The VG-turbo sometimes needs to be cleaned as the vanes will stick. (Mine never have)

In 65,000 miles my truck has treated me pretty well. I do have ARP headstuds. I've had a couple sensors replaced along with an EGR and an EGR cooler.

I think that some of the horror stories are a blown up a little. Many of them came from earlier tuners and chips. Predator is one that is known to pop head gaskets pretty quick.

The truck is a 04 no signs of a tuner box that I could tell looks complety stock.There even any addon guages.

Have a dealer run an Oasis report on it. This will give you a print out of everything that was done at a Ford dealership. If it is a Private party, just take down the VIN and take it to a dealer.

Ya definantly get an Oasis report. I had an 04 and didnt have any issues other than a Transmission Recall and poor fuel mileage.

Thank for the help, that report will come in handy.

Tell him to get a cummins or a duramax

My grandpa owns a ford dealership and the turbos have been a problem with the 6.0 but mostly from letting them sit now the 06 and 07 have a system to where when u turn the key on is sprays oil in to lub it. with my 03 the only problem i have had with it was the map sensor most likely from changing programers i have a SCt xcal 2 and 4'' turbo back exhaust no muf or cat. and air aid and am pushing between 500 to 600hp at the wheels and around 700hp at the flywheel

Then you are the only person I've heard of that is making between 500 and 600HP with just a custom tune, intake, and 4" exhaust. The injectors are only capable of flowing enough fuel for about 430 to 440WHP.

I think I'd like to see a dyno sheet and some 1/4 mile timeslips.

Ya i'm gonna have to call your bluff on that one.
And you don't have studs?:w2:

dont buy it go to a 7.3 or go buy a dodge cummins

dont listen to rv. with the proper add ons and maintenance the 6.0 can be a good engine. as far as the 5-600 hp theres no way your getting that with the mods you have. im callin B.S until other wise proved wrong

well I dont agree you would need to put head studs and hope the engine is a good one I would do a car fax or go to the dealer and see how many issues this truck had I had a the best diesel mechanic in my home town and said if you make it to 60,000 with no engine problems like heads and gaskets turbos etc it will more than likely be a good truck it is the one that had problems to stay away from I had a 6.0 and it was horrible I was a big ford fan till i bought that truck

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also my brother in law had one and he went threw heads gaskets turbos etc so I am not speaking from my butt i had one junk he had one junk I like the super duty truck i just wish they bilt a good diesel engine that had the power of a cummins because they have a good foundation

It doesn't matter what you drive, it's how you drive it that determines the life of the vehicle.

mabe but when you go to my ford dealer there is from stock to moded 6.0s there are at least 6 trucks in line for heads or head gaskets also ford would not be suing internation if it was a perfect motor ? it is a shame because ford builds a great truck just not a diesel

06 and 07 have a system to where when u turn the key on is sprays oil in to lub it.......there ain't no way this is true

You added up all the numbers for hp gains on all the boxes of goodies you got ..didn't you

[QUOTE=rvrcummins;259839]well I dont agree you would need to put head studs and hope the engine is a good one I would do a car fax or go to the dealer and see how many issues this truck had I had a the best diesel mechanic in my home town and said if you make it to 60,000 with no engine problems like heads and gaskets turbos etc it will more than likely be a good truck it is the one that had problems to stay away from I had a 6.0 and it was horrible I was a big ford fan till i bought that truck
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you want to get an OASIS report that will tell you what all has been "mechanically" done to the truck. all carfax will tell you is if it has been wrecked, broken in to etc. etc. and i wont disagree with you at all they have had major trouble with the headgaskets mainly due to the weak @$$ HEADBOLTS they used! and then there is OWNER maintenance. i think you said you had roughly 60k on your truck. how many times in that 60k did you clean your egr valve. it needs to be cleaned approx every 20k miles, less than that if you run a chip. to make a long story short. with the proper mods supported by headstuds and an egr delete 90% of 6.0's will be a good reliable engine! there isnt a truck on the road that doesnt have problems on its way to big HP #'s!!!!

ok u made your point. all i can say that when you go to my dealership and all you see is lined up 6.0 it APPEARS that it is not just a maintence problem and you talk to professional ford mechanics that support that well then ? I never said or implied that I know everything none of us do we just talk from what we learn and see.and experience I know you love your truck so did i before all the problems and yes i do agreee all of them have trouble but it just appears that dodge and chevy seem to have a little less no i am not bashing your truck at all i think you have a good truck.I just see my friend that have 7.3 with no problems like 6.0 I just hope someday ford will get rid of international and build one there own and stop the lawsuits. because they build a great foundation.:rocking:

my 04- 250 had and egr put in it at 145,000 other than that it works like a champ. my
07- 350 has had 4 egr valves put in it and a cooler. we took the bully dog out to see if that iw why all the carbon is building up it has 180,000 on it at this at. the 08 450 king has done great so far it has 47,000 on it. I have had it 6 months.

man 47K in 6 months. do you run a hot shot service or something

I had an 05 Super Duty 6.0 and it was in the shop at least every 10k miles. My 07 Dodge has yet to. The 6.0 had EGR issues, 3 turbos, head gasket and the transfer case went out. All in 75k miles. My 01 dodge never had to go in although I replaced the heater core in it...110k miles. The 07 has 70k so far and I'm pleased with it. Don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool Ford guy but I can't afford to have my truck down that much. I'm not alone either, I have many close friends who made the Dodge switch after having 6.0's BUT I also have a few friends who have ZERO issues with their 6.0's. So I guess it's kinda "luck of the draw" Good luck. :U:

So you had a bad Ford and managed to get a good Dodge. It happens.

My buddy is getting rid of his 08 Dodge because he's tired of fighting with DPF issues (4 DPF's in a little over 1 year). Had an LBZ Chevy that he traded in on the 08 Dodge, tried to get them to swap back across and they wouldn't. He had an 06 Ford that had EGR cooler and head bolt failure prior to that. He has told me several times, that he wish he had just kept the Ford after the head bolts and EGR cooler had been replaced.

Believe it or not the later 6.0's actually have less problems than the early 7.3 strokers did. The first few 6.0's really made a bad name for them.

Your going to make more power with a 6.0


Luke

Well to be exact I've had 2 good Dodges. I agree with the DPF problems on 07.5-current Diesels, which is why I have an 07 5.9. I loved my Ford don't get me wrong.....just got to be a problem. If I was to have another 6.0 I'd stud it and go aftermarket on the turbo. :c:

Did you add up your aftermarket part number "claims" and come up with 500HP? tisk tisk.

What the heck does that have to do with my post that you quoted! I am not the guy the claimed 500HP, nor would I ever come up with a number like that. I do claim 430 because that is what Innovative's tune has been dyno-proven to throw down and I will be hittin the rollers next month to back it up.

Not trying to discourage him from buying a 6.0, but if he is, tell him to look at 05 and up, 03 and 04 were the worst year models, i know of people replacing 4 turbos in them. Without a doubt they definitely got some power just its a headache waiting to happen. Go with the 7.3, best engine made yet especially by ford.

I had a 7.3 before my 6.0... I disagree when people say they were the best motor put in a Ford. Yes they were the most bulletproof of the powerstroke family. But I think the 6.0 is better IF YOU DONT ABUSE IT! I do agree on the 05-up being better. Also gotta keep in mind that even the eariler ones are better now than they were before if the recall work was done to it.

well as far as 05 being better no way 06 and up????? as far as the dodge dpf problems well just delete the dpf and its a great truck far more trustworthy than the 6.0. I wish ford would just fix the issue with the heads and gaskets fix it right the first time they had many years to fix it. I bought a 08 dodge because of a better tranny than the earlier models and been very happy with it

05-up...
as far as "just fixing the problem... It aint that easy... and it aint up to Ford, International makes the engine. But to "just fix the problem" would require redesigning and new manufacturing equipment for the different design. The 5R110 Trans that Ford uses is about the strongest stock trans out there.

well I know what you are saying who built the motor i think everbody knows that but they could do what we have been doing in the after market to fix the problem its funny us as owners can fix the problem but not the builder:argh:

I do agree with you. Ford should have put in Headstuds! A large part of why the problems occur in the Ford trucks is because Ford upped the power from what International made it at.

i have an 03 6.0 and have only had one injector go out but i have only had the truck 6 mounths

SO WHAT TO DO? What up yall! I want an Excursion. I found a 05 2wd with 30k on it. It appears to be stock. Should I buy it or buy a 7.3L with 4 times the miles. I do want to do add ons(cold air,exhaust,etc.) Thanks NO GOOD :pca1:

Have the dealer run an Oasis report on the 05 to see what all has been repaired on it. Most the issues with these trucks happened with the 03.5-04 models.


Luke

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The KOEO noise you hear is the FICM's inductive heating flash, it rattles the injector magnets back and forth to heat them up so they don't stick cold, and to help cold start emissions and misfires.

ALL 6.0's stretch head bolts. 03 and early 04's had a round tube style egr cooler also, that I have NEVER changed. When the design changed to the rad-style square cooler, thats when most of the failures were noted.


05-up trucks also had a snap-to-connect high pressure oil fitting on the pump that blows apart, original fix was a bracket and new fitting, now the new fix is a one-piece fitting.

Ideally, i think the best truck would be an 03 or 04.5 truck with a round style Garrett EGR cooler, and the screw-in stand pipes and branch tubes on the high pressure oil system.

I did head studs in one last week with almost 100k miles on it, and it had NEVER had a warranty repair done on it. 2004 with a 2003 motor in it (early built 04 truck).

i have got an 07 and have never had a problem with it and i have gone back and forth between my ppe and my edge juice with attitude and i hang right beside my buddy with a smarty box that is adding 170rwhp to his truck and my edge is only a 115rwhp chip

simple answer
 

Buy the ford juck, the 6.0 and install a cummins. You will have the best of both worlds. Not to mention dodge guys scratching their head as you rumble by. I love it.