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06PSD6.0 08-15-2012 01:13 PM

06 Smoke Switch
 
Just bought my 2nd 06 6L that has a smoke switch installed from the previous owner. The issue is that its only pushing 5psi max. What can i do to fix this and keep the switch?

Curry 08-15-2012 03:11 PM

Is the switch on?

TheRobenator 08-15-2012 03:35 PM

Buy a new wire harness for the VGT solenoid and wire it in there then throw that "Switch" away.. It does nothing but stop the turbos job and wastes fuel.

Smoke isn't really liked around here and is kind of frowned upon as I learned, if you want smoke, buy an SCT tuner with custom tunes but having that is just unneeded.

Curry 08-15-2012 03:44 PM

I won't lie. I like rollin' some coal after a rice burner tries to race me :choochoo:

Karls03 08-15-2012 04:33 PM

The unavoidable smoke at spool up is exactly that, but to be puffing smoke just cause, pull your pants down around your sack, pull your boxers up passed your waist, and turn your hat sideways to complete the douche bag look.

TheRobenator 08-15-2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Karls03 (Post 925946)
The unavoidable smoke at spool up is exactly that, but to be puffing smoke just cause, pull your pants down around your sack, pull your boxers up passed your waist, and turn your hat sideways to complete the douche bag look.

Couldn't have said it better!! haha
If you want smoke,drop your compression, Add a 100 psi twin turbo set up and prepare to make it a puller.

Mdub707 08-16-2012 09:42 AM

So it has a smoke switch, but it's only on 5psi? Sounds like you should turn the switch to the "off" position. All those switches do is tap into the VGT circuit and turn the control to the vanes off. So the vanes go open, you get no boost and tons of smoke. How cool.

Take it off.:nope:

TheRobenator 08-16-2012 01:08 PM

Mdub + Black smoke = :argh:

06PSD6.0 08-17-2012 11:34 AM

I dont want this truck to smoke at all cuz im going to be working in an "affluent" neighborhood, though i really wouldnt mind fogging the pesky lil mercedes always beeping at me and my trailer, but as of right now, it can barely budge it. No turbo = no go.

Mdub707 08-17-2012 12:21 PM

Check the wiring going to the VGT solenoid make sure the wires are hooked up. There's two wires... just make sure they're connected to the solenoid.

06PSD6.0 08-20-2012 12:28 PM

Fixed it up, i soldered the wires and everything better now, cept shes blowing blue/white smoke and seems to miss right in the middle of the powerband, im taking out the egr vavle today and gonna try to clean it up

Mdub707 08-20-2012 02:55 PM

Check that first, then check the FICM.

06PSD6.0 08-20-2012 03:00 PM

Cleaned the egr and tested the FICM, all normal, still smokin

Mdub707 08-20-2012 03:30 PM

What oil and filter you using? Could just be an injector crapping out. Any way to do a cylinder contribution test?

06PSD6.0 08-20-2012 05:12 PM

Rotella T6 with a ToughGuard filter, and i might be able to do that, not sure, i got 100 horse injectors at the shop but the truck is bone stock

Mdub707 08-21-2012 07:34 AM

ToughGuard filter? Who makes that?

100 hp injectors? Are they out of a cummins or something? :moon:

tiremann9669 08-21-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Mdub707 (Post 928128)
ToughGuard filter? Who makes that?

100 hp injectors? Are they out of a cummins or something? :moon:

Fram

06PSD6.0 08-22-2012 06:01 AM

Fram makes em, and im not sure where the injectors are from, got em from a wrecked 6.0 and the owner said they were 100 horse marine injectors ... beats me

Mdub707 08-22-2012 07:32 AM

hahaha 100 horse marine injectors? WTF? Definitely cummins lingo for sure.

I would send them out to be gone over before putting them in. You might find you have 8 junky stock injectors in your hands. Have them flow tested to see what size they are.

What's the difference between the standard FRAM's like we buy in the orange containers vs. the toughguards? Or isn't there one? Are they one in the same?

tiremann9669 08-22-2012 08:14 AM

Fram makes I think 3 different grades of filters not sure of the difference Wally World carries all 3. :c:

Mdub707 08-22-2012 08:51 AM

I've never seen any other than the regular orange box for our application though, that's the only reason I asked. I was aware of the different types for the screw on filters, but not like ours... I'll have to look into it. I'd be a little worried getting anything other than what comes in the orange box, since that's the one that matches Ford's filters.

tiremann9669 08-22-2012 12:13 PM

I wasn't aware yours wasn't a spin on but I know the other 2 are supposed to be better than the orange box one and are priced a couple bucks more, maybe Fram's website can tell you what the difference is. I don't run Fram's based on stories I've heard on them but maybe they build better filters for the Powerstroke. :c:

Mdub707 08-22-2012 01:24 PM

Yeah Frams are absolute garbage in the spin on variety. The only reason we run them on the 6.0 specifically is because it's the exact same filter you'd buy that comes in the motorcraft box, right down to the P/N printed on the bottom of the filter. If it was a spin on, you couldn't pay me to run it. This cartridge style is exactly the same as the Ford filters though.

Mdub707 08-22-2012 01:28 PM

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Just checked, Fram's website only lists the one filter for the 6.0 and it's the extra guard.

Attachment 37300

06PSD6.0 08-22-2012 03:46 PM

Autozone has the ToughGuard last I checked

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TG9549 is the AutoZone PN

tiremann9669 08-22-2012 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mdub707 (Post 928605)
Yeah Frams are absolute garbage in the spin on variety. The only reason we run them on the 6.0 specifically is because it's the exact same filter you'd buy that comes in the motorcraft box, right down to the P/N printed on the bottom of the filter. If it was a spin on, you couldn't pay me to run it. This cartridge style is exactly the same as the Ford filters though.

NOT tryin to stir up anything but based on the 6.0's track record, maybe what Ford uses isn't the best option in a filter :humm:

Mdub707 08-23-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by 06PSD6.0 (Post 928652)
Autozone has the ToughGuard last I checked

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TG9549 is the AutoZone PN

I'd really like to see the two of them side by side. I'd be nervous using anything other than the one's mentioned already.


Originally Posted by tiremann9669 (Post 928841)
NOT tryin to stir up anything but based on the 6.0's track record, maybe what Ford uses isn't the best option in a filter :humm:

It IS the best option. I know your knowledge of the 6.0 is extremely limited, so here's the breakdown... Some of the aftermarket filters are different sized than the stockers and come with their own cap. They don't clip on like the factory one's and often times when they're installed they don't hit the button in the bottom of the housing that allows oil in, so owners are unknowingly starving their motors of oil. I've read reports of entire engines destroyed due to lack of oil flow. In some cases, the truck wont even start because it's starved so much it wont even build high pressure oil to fire the injectors. So using the right oil filter is VERY important on this engine. Ford/Motorcraft, International, or the basic FRAM's ONLY. Though, the toughguard option is news to me, I would like to see both of them side by side before making a judgement call on it. I also would not want to be the guinea pig on that one...

Using an oil filter that comes with it's own cap is a HUGE no-no.

tiremann9669 08-23-2012 12:53 PM

Extremely limited :ouch:

06PSD6.0 08-23-2012 01:28 PM

Both Fram and STP are direct replacement for filter, in fact just learned that STP has a bit more media than Fram so it might be better, we'll see cuz i just got my oil change supplies

Mdub707 08-23-2012 01:31 PM

We'd have to look at the flow comparisons too, more media isn't always a good thing. It still needs to be able to allow enough oil to flow through. I'd like to see the comparisons. I know the basic Fram filters share the same part numbers on the base of the filter as the motorcraft units.

06PSD6.0 08-24-2012 01:06 AM

How do we get those #'s?

Mdub707 08-24-2012 09:03 AM

They should be listed right on their website, most filter companies have that all listed. I couldn't find the toughguard on their website though, that's why I'm confused.

06PSD6.0 08-24-2012 10:14 AM

Challenge Accepted.

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Called Fram, they have an ExtraGuard filter that flows 3 gal/min and a ToughGuard that flows 3 gal/min also.

Fram Tech Support. 1 800 890 2075 spoke to a Linette, very helpful and fast, professional

smoran22 09-05-2012 10:18 PM

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Attachment 37114

These are the filters used by the International Truck shop I used to work for.

Lilpooh 09-05-2012 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by smoran22 (Post 934215)
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...ner60LFord.png

These are the filters used by the International Truck shop I used to work for.

Not liking that filter, no bypass valve on the top.

Lilpooh 09-05-2012 10:56 PM

Check out at 1:38 into the video.

Mdub707 09-06-2012 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by 06PSD6.0 (Post 929404)
Challenge Accepted.

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Called Fram, they have an ExtraGuard filter that flows 3 gal/min and a ToughGuard that flows 3 gal/min also.

Fram Tech Support. 1 800 890 2075 spoke to a Linette, very helpful and fast, professional

While flow rates are very important, for this specific application the filter design itself is also very important. I was going to talk all about it, but then Lilpooh posted this fuggin awesome video!!!


Originally Posted by Lilpooh (Post 934236)

Dude, that is great!:c:

tiremann9669 09-06-2012 07:21 PM

I wonder who competitor A & B are :humm:

Lilpooh 09-06-2012 09:49 PM

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Here is one.

Attachment 37095

Attachment 37096

Mdub707 09-07-2012 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by tiremann9669 (Post 934588)
I wonder who competitor A & B are :humm:

Pretty much anyone but Ford/Motorcraft or Fram. I have used Amsoil filters in the past, but even know I probably wouldn't use them again.


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