om616 jeep swap
i did an om 616 in an 87 wrangler with a t18 ford 4sd and a 1356 transfer case. This is much easier than making all those adapters and you can can the ax15 trans. I will be happy to answer any questions anyone has. Also my jeep is for sale if anyone wants to do it the easy way.
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I like you idea but most are trying to do it the cheapest way possible buy using their original parts. I know alot of people said the 5th gear in an AX15 is useless unless on flat ground but why would you want to go backwards and use a 4 speed? What year and model would you get the t18 and 1356 T-case from and how much would it cost? I really do like your idea just trying to figure out which is easier and cheaper!
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Originally Posted by superduty_5.9
(Post 677805)
I like you idea but most are trying to do it the cheapest way possible buy using their original parts. I know alot of people said the 5th gear in an AX15 is useless unless on flat ground but why would you want to go backwards and use a 4 speed? What year and model would you get the t18 and 1356 T-case from and how much would it cost? I really do like your idea just trying to figure out which is easier and cheaper!
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I was meaning useless without a gear change but did not say that. I don't want to use a 4 speed but this info could be useful!
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Hmmm, the stock gearing for a 2.5 Jeep diesel with the AX-15 is 3.73, max rpm 3900. And I still reach 110 mph with ease.
Tire dimension used is 235/75 R15. 31" gets a bit sluggish, but who cares? 5th gear is useable anytime. |
Originally Posted by Deezel Stink3r
(Post 677919)
Hmmm, the stock gearing for a 2.5 Jeep diesel with the AX-15 is 3.73, max rpm 3900. And I still reach 110 mph with ease.
Tire dimension used is 235/75 R15. 31" gets a bit sluggish, but who cares? 5th gear is useable anytime. |
yupp, tried the 31" also.
235 is no difference to factory 225. But a "real" half inch taller, lol. To much road use- 31" makes no sense to me. :hellox: |
You guys have made sense to me about 5th gear and tire combinations but I'm more interested in the rest of the post.
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Originally Posted by superduty_5.9
(Post 677805)
I like you idea but most are trying to do it the cheapest way possible buy using their original parts. I know alot of people said the 5th gear in an AX15 is useless unless on flat ground but why would you want to go backwards and use a 4 speed? What year and model would you get the t18 and 1356 T-case from and how much would it cost? I really do like your idea just trying to figure out which is easier and cheaper!
I have my concerns about the torque of a diesel running thru a car transmission, but 3 actual speeds seems like a step backwards, IMHO. |
With the 616 engine (which is the only one that will work properly in a wrangler the 617 wont clear the front axle without some kind of lift or crazy angle) and 29" tires 5th gear would be usless. My t18 is from a 81 f250 with a 460. I used it because it was free but I would never use the ax15 unless it was the only thing I had most jeeps you will find cheap have a bad ax15 in them. I wanted a 100% reliable swap and the t18 will last forever in this application. If you want to change gears all the time maybe you need a 5 speed or with some 4.56 gears I could use overdrive but it is geared just like the 240d i pulled it from now 3speeds on the road is enough and i have low when i need it. Its a perfect combo for me. I have it out right now switching to an external slave cyl and installing a 617 turbo. Then ill see if it can pull 31's.
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