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mr_manny 11-13-2010 08:38 AM

manual shutoff system?
 
what is a good manual shutoff system for a diesel?

I was introduced to a happy jeep owner last night, who did a mercedes om617 install about a year ago.

We talked about everything from the importance of running the right fuel hose to that vacuum system that is responsible for shutting down the motor.

I was curious if anyone was running a completely manual operation?


thought I would share the video of the happy jeep owner...yes, apparently they do exist :p


FTE 11-13-2010 08:15 PM

To operate the vac shutoff on the benz motor you use the electric overboost solonoid off the donor car and hook it up to the vac shutdown and wire it to 12v off the ig switch. To do a manual shutdown, just hook a cable to the stop lever on the side of the valve cover. Don't know why you would want to do that as the solonoid works fine.

mr_manny 11-15-2010 10:44 PM

yea, your right...it sounded like a good option for about 30 secs. :p

ssgstank 11-23-2010 07:56 PM

It's the rest of the vacume crap on the Benz that makes you nuts not the fuel cut off.

mr_manny 01-04-2011 08:36 AM

picked up a vacuum solenoid from the yard yesterday.
tested them with my vacuum pump:
provide power and they allow vacuum flow...wondering if I can adapt this for my mercedes shutoff.

Now I'm looking for a device that will provide power for a short period once I've turned OFF the truck.
Thinking anything from 10sec to a minute would be fine.

thanks,
manny

ssgstank 01-05-2011 12:51 PM

You got me on this one I can't think of any thing that you could do that with. Some of the 80's vintage cars had a set up to keep the head lights on for a couple of mins after shut down but I don't know exactly how they did it.

mr_manny 01-06-2011 10:46 PM

looks like something like this may be the answer :)

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another example:

http://www.wolstentech.com/products/...relay/app8.php

need to do more research :p

mr_manny 02-27-2011 10:58 PM

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finally found one at the yard :)

electrical connections:
brown is positive +
black is negative -

Vacuum port connections:
Outside port connects the Injection Pump vacuum diaphragm.
Center port connects to a vacuum source.


Is this correct?


Attachment 42638


tested above with my hand vacuum pump...seems to be working correctly :)


thanks,
manny

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found out that this is actually an over-boost protection device...

may try it, as it really comes down to how much vacuum the fuel-shutoff diaphragm actually requires.

ssgstank 02-28-2011 01:28 AM

I would like to hear about how well this works.

dsltoy 02-28-2011 04:29 AM

There are small black vac solenoids that go to the trans. They open when electric is shut off. That would be your best bet. I found several on the donor car my engine came from and I tested them at home. With power, they are closed and no power they are open. I will be wiring one to my ignition so it goes off with the key.

mr_manny 02-28-2011 08:45 AM

dsltoy,
Please keep us posted...as it will be a week or so before I can make it to the shop.

if it works, could you post a pic of these black solenoids?

thanks,
manny

dsltoy 02-28-2011 04:56 PM

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I won't be able to test on my truck for a while, but I've seen others use them and when I bench tested them, they worked. You can find them all over the engine bay if you go back for one. I'll get a pic of one later for you.

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Here's the pic of the vac solenoid

Attachment 42634

mr_manny 02-28-2011 10:33 PM

thank you sir :)

deck60 03-01-2011 12:44 AM

we all are in appreciation for sure :jump:

FTE 03-01-2011 10:45 AM

Yep, those are the ones, it helps to put a vacuum can in between the pump and shut-off solonoid to aid in quick reaction.

superduty_5.9 03-23-2011 12:11 PM

I know there is a pic on here of the factory OM617 overboost solenoid but I can't find it. Anybody got a pic or a link to the one on here. I want to make sure I take the right thing off the car. Thanks.

mr_manny 03-23-2011 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by superduty_5.9 (Post 727765)
I know there is a pic on here of the factory OM617 overboost solenoid but I can't find it.

page 8 of this thread:
https://www.dieselbombers.com/diesel...tml#post715362

located on the firewall near the IP.

superduty_5.9 03-23-2011 07:28 PM

That link you provided sent me back to this thread. Thanks anyway.

mr_manny 03-24-2011 07:38 PM

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sorry,
misunderstood your question.

you wanted a pic of the solenoid mounted on the vehicle?

superduty_5.9 03-25-2011 07:41 AM

Thanks for the pic Mr Manny!


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