ISB 4bt into 04 F-150
 

I am in the process of gathering all the parts to install a ISB 3.9 into a 04 f-150.

I have a couple of questions about it even though I have done this to my 97 f-150 but that was a VE-pump. and a lot less wires

I was wondering a couple things.

1. Is there a wiring harness that would just plug into my factory truck for my gauges to work correctly?

2. The motor is an 01 and is that a common rail or VP-44 style pump on there?

3. Is there a way to use a programmer to increase the maximum RPM's above 2600 and to increase power?

4. Does anyone make an adapter plate for an Allison1000 transmission to the stock ford transfer case?

Those are the main questions I have any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Let me answer all of your questions....

1. NO
2. Either a P7100 for a 4BT (3.9L) or common rail ISB 4.5 is all cummins makes, the 4.5 is electronic.....
3. Niether will have any type of programmer available
4. Not that I'm aware of.....

Might want to rethink this one....

I know that cummins made a 3.9 ISB it is not a 4.5 and they also made a mechanical 4.5 also before makeing the electronic 4.5 ISB

I was finally able to talk to smarty and a programmer should be possible it will be a one off for the time being but if there is a demand they would make more.

Now it is just finding the motor/tranny combo I want for the price I want. I found 2 but they are a little expensive

I also am doing an isb 3.9 conversion. Mine is a 2001 common rail rear drive engine, I'm mating it to an Allison 6 speed. Between Howards, Arens and Allison, I believe I have most of the parts. You said smarty could do a programer for you, who did you talk to? When I talked them (just now) I got told a flat no.

milage
 

what kind of power and mileage do you get on that 97 4bt ford, and would it be street legal to do the same in a 2004.

What intercooler is that, in your sig?

The smarty guy I don't know his name my friend talked to someone there.


Well as for the legality issue I can not comment.....(Kinda a don't ask don't tell thing)



The intercooler is actually not from a truck at all it used to be a oil/intercooler from a Genisis series tractor but the oil cooler on the bottom leaked and we cut it off. Why do you ask?

I've been scoping out intercoolers, and that one looks like it would fit pretty well on my Bronco.

Any video of that thing? Awesome!

Bout time somebody start messing with the ISB 4 cylinder. I have been waiting for this thread! It is the same as the six cylinder brother. you can mate an allison to it not a problem you can use the same stuff they make for the sixcylinder, and it has a stand alone control module. as far as the ford transfer case. Hmmm....
Leav it to the boys in the Great lakes to do amazing things commpared to us in emission controlled States! Keep us posted on the progress your quite unique. I might add post more PICS! !!!! please ..

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I forgot to add. What did you pull the engine from?

As far as mating it to an allison 1000. Fleece Performance make allison tranny stand alone kits and conversion kit for 1998-2006 6 cylinder cummins.

Hope this helps

The motor is already mated to the Allison transmission I will NOT need an adapter for that.

As for more pictures you can go to this link Picasa Web Albums - 06nthome - Drop Box

I also don't happen to have any videos of the truck though.

This next project though it will have more pictures and for sure videos.

I am really interested in doing that swap myself. Is that a 4/4, I wonder if it will fit in a 4/4. Also what kind of mileage do you get. That is one of the main reasons I am interested in a diesel conversion. And do you know what the weight of the 4bt is.
what Allison transmission is it mated to, and are there any kits to mate it to a ford transmission, because I am also interested in using a gear vendors, under?overdrive gear splitter and I dont think they make them for the Allison tranny.

Gear Vendors does custome work for most aplications. I am sure they can build one for you.

look to the right in the black area is some choices.
I am guessing this ISB came from an old delivery truck that had an Allison? am I wrong?

This combo came out a workhorse van. They only made this combo for a couple years though.

I am installing this combo into a 4X4 truck and the last one that is on my signature is a 4X4 truck also. The hardest part with this new project is going to be mating it up to the transfercase.

Should be an interesting swap. What did you do for fuel delivery for the 4bt?

On the 97 swap with the VE i just used the stock in tank pump. I just made a loop with the fuel system and then used the stock lift pump from the cummins motor to feed it to the injector pump.

On my 2004 isb swap I will just be buying an AirDog2 for a dodge and modify the in tank pick-up like you would on the dodge truck.

transmission
 

Thanks for all the info, how similar is the allison tranny that came with that 4bt, to the one from the Duramax. is it bigger, and would the duramax allison be a better choice for a f150 4bt conversion.

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thanks dude

Depends. What allison came with the 4bt? How much power do you plan on making?

The Allison transmission that is behind the 4bt is a Allison 1000 the same that is behind the duramax with slightly different programming but the same none the less. The bell housing might be a different also i am not sure what bell housing the duramax has.

I plan on making at least 300hp to start but shooting for a final number of 400hp. With a common rail that should not be too hard just injectors a box or two and better turbo.

thank for the info

Any updates? I'm thinking about this motor for a rock crawler/buggie. that 300-400 horse number really sounds like what i'm after. How about the torque #?:humm: