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CheaperJeeper 09-09-2010 10:13 PM

LOL! You're hilarious man!

You've never actaully even seen this engine and tranny mated together, but yet you'll argue with TWO people here who have not only put them together, but have and driven the vehicle with the combo in it for a while. AND yet you'll try to tell them that THEY are wrong when they say it works fine.

That sounds like either the very definition of arrogance - OR someone trolling for an argument!

But then those of us who already know you, wouldn't expect anything else... :rolleyes2:

samilitant 09-10-2010 12:14 PM

And after this Fall/Winter it will be 3 people--the OM617 to 700R4 adapter price just dropped, so I'm doing this swap over the next few months--I'm posting on IFSJA forum since it's a Wagoneer.

FTE 09-10-2010 01:09 PM

I just consider the source! ForcedInduction spouts his hate and discontent on other sites as well. I just picked up an 85 300sd for the motor for my jeep, and its a driver, that said my 700r4 is way better than this rig and I have test drivin 5 different cars over the last 3 weeks looking for a suitable doner. They all drove like slugs compaired to my jeep with a wounded motor!! I hope to have the new motor in soon!

seaglf 09-12-2010 05:26 PM

hijacking
 
this may, or may not be hijacking, but since i'm I'm already here.....does any one know of a 3.0 aluminum block v6 Mercedes from a sprinter or Cherokee being swapped into a late model wrangler unlimited.
Well it is a Mercedes into a Jeep anyway..LOL

Benzer1 09-13-2010 07:24 AM

Cooking OIl
 
If you really want to get Forced going, mention running cooking oil. LOL!!!!
(He has been a big help to me in the past to be fair though.....)
Love ya Forced !!!

John

CheaperJeeper 09-13-2010 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by Benzer1 (Post 619897)
If you really want to get Forced going, mention running cooking oil. LOL!!!!
(He has been a big help to me in the past to be fair though.....)
Love ya Forced !!!

John

Yeah, he's helped me a bit too. He's got a lot to share for sure...

ForcedInduction 09-14-2010 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper (Post 618590)
You've never actaully even seen this engine and tranny mated together

That is false information.
There are several of them running around the Denver/Boulder/Longmont area and none of them drive remotely as nice as with the stock transmission or 5-speed manual.


Originally Posted by FTE (Post 618833)
I just consider the source!

Yeah, thats right, attack the conveyor of information instead of the information itself. Please learn how to conduct yourself properly in a debate.

TCU Fan 09-14-2010 07:12 PM

Come on men, lets keep this on topic. :argh:

Andrew Y 10-25-2011 09:29 PM

LOL you guys dont need to use a chevy tranny....

OM617 Adapter Kits

FTE 10-27-2011 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Andrew Y (Post 813282)
LOL you guys dont need to use a chevy tranny....

OM617 Adapter Kits

When we did these swaps, there were NO adapter kits out there!

Andrew Y 10-27-2011 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by FTE (Post 813821)
When we did these swaps, there were NO adapter kits out there!

Digging alittle deeper, it does seem that way. I can barely find any info on people using these. Seems like a no brainer at this point! Only tough part would be motor mounts.

soundman67 04-16-2012 07:18 PM

Hi,
New here and I have done a basic search but does anyone make an adapter kit to mate the om617 to the aw4 using the jeep torque converter?
I would be using an adapter to shift the aw4 instead of using the TCU.

CheaperJeeper 05-01-2012 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by soundman67 (Post 883666)
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I would be using an adapter to shift the aw4 instead of using the TCU.

What kind of "adapter"? The AW4 shifting is really pretty simple to control. IIRC it has 4 shift solenoids - 3 for forward gears and one for reverse. Energize solenoid 1 and it goes into 1st, de-energize solenoid 1 and energize solenoid 2 to shift into 2nd, energize 1 and 2 to get 3rd, and energize all 3 forwardd solenoids to get OD. De-energize all 3 forward solenoids and energize the reverse solenoid to shift to reverse.

That may not be exactly right, but its something very similar to that and just that simple. The details should be pretty easy to dig up online. Once you know the details it shouldn't be too hard to make a tip-tronic type "clutchless manual" shifting setup - or even a standard H pattern "clutchless manual" arrangement...

david24 05-01-2012 11:34 PM

I drove the MerJeep to work , first trip going that far(12 miles one way). Last night I flushed some seafoam through it and changed the fuel filters, the engine ran quite a bit smoother. On the way home from work, it ran rougher and was ticking. I am going to do a valve adjustment tomorrow and see if that helps. It may just need to be ran for a while, I don't know how long the car sat before I got it. All in all, i'm very happy with it so far. Thanks again to all of you for your assistance, I appreciate it.







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soundman67 05-03-2012 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper (Post 889972)
What kind of "adapter"? The AW4 shifting is really pretty simple to control. IIRC it has 4 shift solenoids - 3 for forward gears and one for reverse. Energize solenoid 1 and it goes into 1st, de-energize solenoid 1 and energize solenoid 2 to shift into 2nd, energize 1 and 2 to get 3rd, and energize all 3 forwardd solenoids to get OD. De-energize all 3 forward solenoids and energize the reverse solenoid to shift to reverse.

That may not be exactly right, but its something very similar to that and just that simple. The details should be pretty easy to dig up online. Once you know the details it shouldn't be too hard to make a tip-tronic type "clutchless manual" shifting setup - or even a standard H pattern "clutchless manual" arrangement...

Yup thats what I have found basically too. Although I think there are only 3 solenoids and a locking Torque converter. Clutchless manual shift is fine for me'
What I need to find is someone who has adapters to mate the AW4 to the OM617. Anyone who knows of an adapter that is proven I would love to hear from you.

Sorry for the thread drift BTW.

CheaperJeeper 05-03-2012 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by soundman67 (Post 890624)
What I need to find is someone who has adapters to mate the AW4 to the OM617. Anyone who knows of an adapter that is proven I would love to hear from you.

I think you're probably going to have to build your own - or have it built locally.

Throttle Jockey 05-05-2012 01:34 AM

https://www.dieselbombers.com/diesel...tic-trans.html

It's coming...


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