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prison 12-01-2011 04:01 PM

96 powerstroke
 
First i'll say i'm posting for a friend so if i dont have the answer i'll get it immediately. Its a bit of a bad situation. its 37 degrees. his glowplugs are shot. we just put on a relay today hoping it'd give us something. last night trying to start the truck it chugged once on a couple of starts and it would let out a puff of smoke. today its getting no fuel at all it seems like. no smoke at all out of the pipe. this afternoon we got home and read a cps sensor code so i replaced that and that code is gone. he runs off road diesel through it once or twice a month. coming back to p.a. from n.y. this past sunday and through monday he ran two tanks of off road through it. the truck has less than a quarter tank. its on a slight incline. i didnt think the incline would be an issue but he thinks it might be. no mods done except the basic intake and edge "gameboy" programmer. :argh:

DieselDanBoy 12-01-2011 04:27 PM

put more fuel in it first with an additive. check the fuel filter? see if the bowl is full?

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and i know you said the glow plugs are shot, but if you cross the glow plug relay and try to start it does that make a difference?

prison 12-01-2011 04:31 PM

without pulling filter totally out the bowl is about half full. more fuel in tank or in bowl? will try crossing the relay but did a check on it and it is functioning. also forgot to mention that the first time we cranked it after i changed the cps he smelled fuel. after that he didnt smell it anymore

DieselDanBoy 12-01-2011 04:51 PM

what does the filter look like? and put more fuel in the tank just for good measure.

you said no other codes?

hows the oil level?

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also any fuel leaks along the frame rail? up the front of the motor? in the valley? lift pump?

prison 12-01-2011 05:03 PM

filter looked ok. the only other code is intake air temp which he said he's had since he put the intake on. oil level is perfect. no fuel leaks that i saw.

now i have a couple more thoughts. I was talking to a girl in my diesel class and we're thinking we might be at the point where the fuel will wax a bit but not gel. could this be possible? also last night we took the truck back to stock programming from tow. is there any chance the edge screwed up and shut the fuel off?

95powersmoker 12-01-2011 05:05 PM

Hows the HPOP Res...

prison 12-01-2011 05:11 PM

you had to say it didnt you :/ havent checked it yet. forgot how. and also really hoping that wasnt where the issue was

95powersmoker 12-01-2011 05:58 PM

Just pull the inspection plug at the top of it and check the level for s&g's

prison 12-01-2011 06:16 PM

im gonna do that now if he's still awake. after more research is the ipr possible or would that just make it run crappy

DieselDanBoy 12-01-2011 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by prison (Post 826137)
filter looked ok. the only other code is intake air temp which he said he's had since he put the intake on. oil level is perfect. no fuel leaks that i saw.

now i have a couple more thoughts. I was talking to a girl in my diesel class and we're thinking we might be at the point where the fuel will wax a bit but not gel. could this be possible? also last night we took the truck back to stock programming from tow. is there any chance the edge screwed up and shut the fuel off?

its not cold enough yet.
umm, i know 99-03 will have a fuel shutoff (anti theft) if your switching tuners on and off sometimes, but im not completely sure about 94.5-97's..... i wouldnt imagine so. unless it shuts off your idm.

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Originally Posted by prison (Post 826155)
im gonna do that now if he's still awake. after more research is the ipr possible or would that just make it run crappy

to be honest i dont think so, you would have a p1211 code or something like that if that failed. thats a common. i dont think it would keep the truck from starting because i've heard of people driving around on bad ones.

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with that scanner, can you look on datastream and see what you high pressure oil is at while cranking (in terms of psi)? needs atleast 450psi to start.


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