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Johnny Cetane 07-14-2008 10:17 AM

Duramax Headers
 
Does anyone make such a thing?

When should a guy look into getting a set?

Oilfield_Mafia 07-14-2008 01:54 PM

Johnny.. I think this is as close as you can get to a header for the DMAX..


BD-Power Duramax Exhaust Manifold - BD1041460



Danny might prove me wrong though when he gets on here...

Johnny Cetane 07-14-2008 01:58 PM

yeah I saw that a while back. There's another product I was thinking about but can't remember the specifics of it. :humm: I hate brain farts. :ha:

redneckbuckeye 07-14-2008 04:04 PM

There are companies that make headers for the 6.6 Duramax , here is a link to one that makes them or at least offers themDuramax Headers and Up Pipes - Diesel Place

2500HeavyDuty 07-14-2008 04:49 PM

There has been a big issue with the longevity with dmax headers, they dont seem to last as long as planned. some crack and headers aren't really needed. but they do some work.


Originally Posted by redneckbuckeye (Post 182468)
There are companies that make headers for the 6.6 Duramax , here is a link to one that makes them or at least offers themDuramax Headers and Up Pipes - Diesel Place


These rttoys can fill u in on them, or u can read that thread. Russel has been testing them extensively as long with many other people. Russel was mostly the control for the experiment cause his truck was bone stock for tests and had the full header and up piped replaced with the TxC log manifolds. His results were good from the dyno and on the street with the boost gauge fun video. He still has the stock turbo back exhaust still IIRC. He runs a super chips and needs his rig to be reliable and quiet for DD and weekend towing. Really a good product i must say it really improves the turbo response.

But im a wait a lil bit longer before i pick some up

Diesel-N-Dust 07-14-2008 05:02 PM

I'm interested too, but I will wait and see how reliable they are.

2500HeavyDuty 07-14-2008 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Oilfield_Mafia (Post 182388)
Johnny.. I think this is as close as you can get to a header for the DMAX..


BD-Power Duramax Exhaust Manifold - BD1041460



Danny might prove me wrong though when he gets on here...

I have that bd manifold right now, for piece of mine and i was too lazy to tap my manifold.

RodZZilla 07-20-2008 09:28 AM

ATS is supposed to be coming out w/a set of cast manifolds and up pipes for the Duramax. I have heard the pricing will be similar to the TXC Log Headers.

2500HeavyDuty 07-20-2008 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by RodZZilla (Post 184991)
ATS is supposed to be coming out w/a set of cast manifolds and up pipes for the Duramax. I have heard the pricing will be similar to the TXC Log Headers.


i seen those in the DP mag, they look kinda "kinky" to me

LeadfootDuramax 07-21-2008 11:42 AM

There are some people on this site who are testing some hearders & Up-pipe as we speak. I saw the dyno results and they look real promising. They should chime in at some point.

2500HeavyDuty 07-21-2008 07:03 PM

you wouldnt be talkin about Russel would you?

LeadfootDuramax 07-21-2008 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by 2500HeavyDuty (Post 185758)
you wouldnt be talkin about Russel would you?

Maybe, and to say that they improve turbo response would be an understatement.

Oilfield_Mafia 07-21-2008 08:12 PM

uh, and just how fast can u ship a set of these special headers for my 07 classic LBZ to Shady Point, OK? lol oh yea, and how much are they? Power gains? EGT#'s?

2500HeavyDuty 07-21-2008 08:17 PM

alot, i would find the thread.... but im out loggin efi data:Race:

Rttoys 07-24-2008 09:46 AM

We have hard recorded data showing all gains useing the TxChristopher up pipes and headers. It's all spelled out on DP and the diesel spot that was posted previously in post #4. I was going to start a whole thread on this here, just haven't had a chance.

Data shows high hp/torque gains down low (as much as 100 lt/ft torque at 2000 rpm) for the towing guy like me and an overall increase in power up top (15hp/30 lb/ft), all while decreasing EGT's by 100* and actually lowering ECTs by as much as 5* while towing:5: Not to mention the lack of turbo lag and the overall throttle response is increadible, less tranny downshifts when towing, more available power down low in the towing RPMs....... it goes on and on.

Some say they will crack over time, I don't know, haven't seen any proof of it under normal use conditions. What I do know is the guy who is actually makeing them has been making custom headers for years and I'm sure be knows what he is doing. Some have a bone to pick with the guy, so he will never be right no matter what he does. I do know this, if you want different materials to be used (since you know better than others) bellows instead of slip joints, etc. It can all be done, the price just goes up. These particular type of headers and pipes are for the guy who wants that extra punch, better performance and lower EGTs all without changing programming or having to modify the attaching points (just like a cat back exhaust that requires 'no cuting or drilling'). This is no different than adding a free flowing intake or muffler/cat delete. Remove old parts, go in with the new.:U:

TCU Fan 07-24-2008 10:40 AM

Cool Russel, maybe "the guy that makes them" and TXChristopher can come over and add more. I heard that "the guy that makes them" has quite a few miles with them on his truck with no issues. I hope it works out for them.

Were you in Colorado last week?

Rttoys 07-24-2008 11:20 AM

I'm going to try and get them on here. Does TxC need any vendor status to talk about his product??

Yep, went to Colorado Spring, CO for the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. Did a bunch of riding in the area and watch the races up Pikes Peak. Truck and trailer performed flawlessly.:5:

Diesel-N-Dust 07-24-2008 12:12 PM

Russell, Are there any gains in MPG?

Rttoys 07-24-2008 12:29 PM

Probably. If I could keep my foot out of it. It's too much fun playing with the boost guage now.:tttt:


Diesel-N-Dust 07-24-2008 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Rttoys (Post 186766)
Probably. If I could keep my foot out of it. It's too much fun playing with the boost guage now.:tttt:

YouTube - Boost Gauge Fun

LOL! Well keep your foot out of it for at least one tank full, I would really like to know how much they improve fuel economy.
I bet they make a big difference.

Also how about performance coatings? i.e. Jet-Hot, or ceramic.

Rttoys 07-24-2008 03:04 PM

Well, I don't have anything official on my MPGs because on my 2200 mile journey to CO and back I switched tires back to my 285s and stock PYO wheels to help fuel mileage. Just from memory of when I use to run this setup, while towing, I got anywhere between 8-10 mpg depending on how many toys I had in the trailer. This weekend (other than the huge head wind coming out of CO till this side of Abiline, which got us 7-8mpgs) I got 9-10 everywhere else and this was with a heavier load than my normal. I usually run around 20,500# combined, this time I weighed in at 21,500#.:U:

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Originally Posted by Diesel-N-Dust (Post 186813)
Also how about performance coatings? i.e. Jet-Hot, or ceramic.


We haven't done any of that yet, but some people are putting 'header wrap' around the up pipes to keep it cooler around the firewall area.

TCU Fan 07-24-2008 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rttoys (Post 186744)
I'm going to try and get them on here. Does TxC need any vendor status to talk about his product??

Yep, went to Colorado Spring, CO for the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. Did a bunch of riding in the area and watch the races up Pikes Peak. Truck and trailer performed flawlessly.:5:


He will not get in trouble if he is not actively trying to sell his stuff...

I went through Co Springs last Monday and I would have bet that I saw your truck and trailer.

Rttoys 07-25-2008 10:07 AM

Ya, we left 'The Springs' (as the locals call it) around 10 Monday morning, headed down I-25 to Pueblo to US50 east

There was a bad accident on 25s, cops and paramedics everywhere. Looked real bad.:ouch:

jdugie123 07-25-2008 11:29 AM

ya i wonder if these would help a lot once i get my twins i need every bit of help i have a feeling i will be pulling my motor soon it just doesn't seem to want to act right but i am hoping it is my turbo not the engine itself. i think oddone may be doing some testing but i think he is just doing the up pipes i am really hoping he sees some good numbers

Rttoys 07-27-2008 09:38 PM

123, a little birdy showed me some 'race headers' that may tickle your fancy. Stay tuned....:w2:

Just an FYI to all those 'slip joints will leak' folks, I'm now testing bellowed up pipes.......feel good, power is almost the same, only the dyno will tell.........:U:

2500HeavyDuty 07-27-2008 09:40 PM

when are you going up there russel, u better invite me:bat:

Rttoys 07-27-2008 09:48 PM

To the dyno??? Don't know yet, still play'n.....:run:

2500HeavyDuty 07-27-2008 09:50 PM

damn, im never going to go, i got some new mods comming in too i wanna try out

Rttoys 07-27-2008 09:50 PM

I think I'm/we are going to do a 'test drive' for those sceptics here soon. Just trying to find time.

Rttoys 07-30-2008 07:13 PM

Here are the numbers from my 3 previous dyno pulls. (haven't done a dyno with the new bellowed up pipes yet)

2250rpm - 2750 - Peak
My stock 108/258 - 220/420 - 231.7/420.5
Up Pipes 156/366 - 228/435 - 237.1/434.9
Pipes
and headers 160/374 - 238/451 - 245.4/451.2

:U: Down low power is great, boost comes on strong at any given time, just by pushing the go pedal.:5: 1900-2200rpm is right where I and everyone else should be towing at and that's right where the pipes and headers do their best......:choochoo:

Johnny Cetane 07-31-2008 09:00 AM

Very cool. Thanks for putting those up. :U:

Looks like they might be worth the money.

jdugie123 07-31-2008 09:45 AM

ya but has he set a price on them yet i am trying to find out how much everything is going to be because if i get my twins i will need to add that price into it so i know how much i am going to need after i graduate

Johnny Cetane 07-31-2008 10:01 AM

I thought I had read that they were going to be $1500 for the slip joint/stainless 309.

jdugie123 07-31-2008 10:28 AM

if that is true then i guess i will have to live with out them

Rttoys 07-31-2008 10:36 AM

Ya, that's basicaly correct for the entire setup, but listen here......a little birdy told me he may be doing a special on the up pipes alone and to me the up pipes are where the most gains are at.:w2:

Johnny Cetane 07-31-2008 10:36 AM

It is a lot of money. I guess I haven't priced out what factory manifolds and up pipes cost to get an idea.

But I guess if you can replace the restrictive factory pieces for freer flowing, stainless headers and uppipes and see true gains like that then they might be worth it. I guess it would also depend on what you're doing with your truck. A racer or puller might not find these as useful because they seem to help more down low but us normal folk could see some benefit to them..... if you can afford the tab.

Anyway...that's my $.02 on it.

Rttoys 07-31-2008 10:39 AM

If you want that extra kick for street racing, towing and everyday driving, do the up pipes and call it a day. Bang for the buck, it's the way to go.:U:

SUBMAN 07-31-2008 12:25 PM

get in touch with RickDlance on most any of the Duramax Forums. He makes headers and up-pipes for DMax

Rttoys 07-31-2008 12:41 PM

He's the one makeing them for TxC. It's TxC's design and specs, RDL is the one make them and neither one of them would not put their name on them if it was crap.

jdugie123 07-31-2008 01:22 PM

anything Chris does is well thought out and tested very well before he brings anything to market i wish there were more company like that out there


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