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250 gottiline 05-25-2013 08:33 PM

6.5 stalled while driving
 
just like the title says....i was at highway speed and it just died and now wont start ....plenty of fuel ....no fuel squirt when i crack the bleeder ....not sure where to start replacing stuff ....
any advise is appreciated ..thanx in advance...

Andrew4118 05-25-2013 09:50 PM

From what Ive been reading here the first place to start would be the PMD if you havent already done it. If its mounted on the IP they say its good to relocate it somewhere else because of the heat in that area. I would also make sure the lift pump is working right.

250 gottiline 05-25-2013 11:40 PM

how do i test lift pump? will be ordering new pmd on payday..

detroitdiesel idi 05-26-2013 12:19 AM

what year is the truck? when truck died did your heater and radio still work?

250 gottiline 05-26-2013 09:10 AM

94 1500 z71 .and yea they did still work ...

detroitdiesel idi 05-26-2013 01:11 PM

crack an injector line loose and see if youve got fuel goin to injectors

racer55 05-29-2013 02:19 PM

OPS powers the lift pump when the engine runs and is a common failure point,if you have any rust holes in the fuel line the IP won't draw fuel on it's own and you run out of fuel even though the tank is not empty.

A plugged vent in the filler cap can create high enough vacuum in the tank that fuel won't pull out of the tank no matter what also.

Then PMD is another stall causing part as well as worn out ignition switches.

250 gottiline 06-01-2013 10:52 PM

mine is a 93 z71 i cant find any ops on it at all ...and i do have a pmd (stock) ...it cranks but wont start ...im gettin close to the end of my rope here ..

racer55 06-01-2013 11:59 PM

OPS is under the intake in frt of the filter housing.

No PMD on a 93.

To test the LP you can put 12v to ALDL pin G,OPS still powers LP while engine runs,relay powers it during cranking.

250 gottiline 06-02-2013 10:03 AM

im sure im not as knowledgeable as you are with the 6.5 or any other diesels for that matter but i am 10,000% sure that my truck has a pmd i have touched it .. and as for ops i have seen a pic of where it is and my engine does not appear to have one? im not familiar with aldl.. any chance at a diagram???thanx in advance ..

racer55 06-02-2013 10:10 AM

ALDL is where you connect the scan tool:
Diagnostic codes OBD I - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

PMD's are only on 94+ trucks with electronic injection pumps.
93's were mechanical injection only so if you have a PMD please post a picture.
Also the easy way to tell the difference between mechanical and electronic injection pumps is:mechanical IP's have a throttle cable from the peddle to the IP's eklectronic IP's only have wires connected to the throttle peddle and IP.

Also in 2 different replys you have stated the truck is a 93 and a 94,there were big changes between those years so please clear up what year the truck really is or post what the 10th digit of the vin is.

250 gottiline 06-02-2013 10:17 AM

maybe im driving a 93 and a half? i do not have a throttle cable for sure ...ill go out and take another look for this ops ...i looked for it yesterday with a pic of where to look in hand and i didnt see it ..

racer55 06-02-2013 10:42 AM

There is a chance that the engine has been changed out for a newer model short block or complete,in that case the OPS will be much further into the valley under the intake about 1 1/2 inches.

Since you have what appears to be a 94,the LP runs during cranking by the LP relay,and the OPS powers the LP during engine running.
So safely park the truck and put the gear selector into drive and turn the key to run to get the LP to run for testing purposes-the safety neutral switch should prevent the engine from cranking but the LP should run to bleed the filter or whatever.

If that happens you know the LP works and so does the relay.The OPS only activates when the engine is running or you can power the LP directly through the relay by putting 12v to ALDL pin G

Often the PMD fails and causes stalling and no starts but this guide can help diagnose a bad PMD:
http://www.accuratediesel.com/nostart.html
This is not foolproof,replacing the PMD with a know working PMD is the best for diagnosis in the short run for a quick check and every electronic IP owner should carry a spare PMD so a relocation Kit with PMD,resistor,heatsink and extension harness that allows you to mount the PMD outside the engine bay is something that should be had.

250 gottiline 06-03-2013 04:57 PM

tried a good pmd today no luck ..i guess i need to learn how to check my lp..

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ok so i went out to try to fire it up and still nothin ..but i cracked the t valve bleeder and cranked it over and got a lil fuel squirt out ...but now nothin again ...

racer55 06-03-2013 05:08 PM

Not sure how to make this any clearer.

Have a friend put the gear selector in drive and turn the key to start and hold it there,the LP should now be running and pumping.

Open the bleeder valve on top of the fuel filter and bleed out any air in the filter(while your friend holds the key in the start position).

Once the filter has no air and the bleeder is closed,your buddy can let go of the key.

Now crack 1 easy to get to injector high pressure fuel line loose at the injector.Tighten that line back up when the engine starts.

Begin cranking the engine over(with gear selector now in park) in burst of no more than 15 seconds with a 1 minute starter cooldown period between cranking sessions.

The truck should start and run with about 3 cranking sessions if all else is in working order.

If your new PMD is not fastened to the IP or an aluminum heatsink and relocated outside the engine bay with an extension harness you will fry it within about 10 minutes run time.

250 gottiline 06-03-2013 06:19 PM

ok tried that ..no fuel and now a weird friction sound in front of engine

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ok so i tried that and no fuel ..and now there is a weird friction noise when cranking ..

racer55 06-03-2013 06:35 PM

Lift pump relay on the firewall chattering?
Check the LP fuse on the firewall?


Not really sure what you mean by friction sound- a video with good sound posted here might help identify the noise?

250 gottiline 06-03-2013 06:37 PM

sounds like the front by the fan...more of a grind...try to get vid

racer55 06-03-2013 06:52 PM

Idler pulleys,vac pump or AC compressor seizing up?

250 gottiline 06-03-2013 08:58 PM

under the ip? does that make sense?

racer55 06-04-2013 06:50 AM

Could be that your IP is shot orthe bolt has backed off and the timing gears are moving out of line?


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