Originally Posted by LOGANSTANFORTH
(Post 108563)
yeah the lead mines producing the lead for all those batteries they are using hurt the enviroment 10x's more than any pollutant a vehicle produces.....
Originally Posted by sawmillman
(Post 108657)
who wants to drive a hydrogen bomb around anyway
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Originally Posted by Benjamin
(Post 108614)
not tryin' to tick anyone off but if it expells water as exhaust then there is gonna be a bend in the up position that will create a "low" spot in the system. that lowspot would seem to me like a trap on a sink. then when the vehicle would stop for the night wouldn't all that water freeze?
We are talking very small amounts of water, not a gush... |
i was just thinking out loud.... you'd be suprised what you think of when you drive 700 miles in a day.... work the next and then drive back 700 miles.... i have to do something to keep me from going completely insane..... i mean there are alot of what if's that noone will know until they hit the mainstream....
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i know how ya feel Ben.....i used to do that on my 120 mile drive to and from college........
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There are actually quite a few of them on the road right now....mostly in a prototype stage, but lots of info about them...Some like the Honda will become production as early as next year IIRC
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did some reading and there is 2 types of hydrogen vehicles.
In combustion, the hydrogen is burned in engines in fundamentally the same method as traditional gasoline cars. In fuel-cell conversion, the hydrogen is reacted with oxygen to produce water and electricity, the latter of which is used to power an electric traction motor. so does the fuel cell conversion create heat? if not then my ideeers might still be valid. |
My understanding is that some heat is produced....
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ANYTIME you use ANY method whether it be mechanical, chemical, nuclear, or elctro-motive you generate heat. There is no known method to man of generating energy without creating heat. Hydrogen powered and fuel cell powered vehicles have the same issue but on a bigger level. Anytime you invovle hydrogen and oxygen you create a massive amount of heat without a natural catalyst to counter-act it. Not to mention the point we were making earlier that anytime you contain hydrogen you create a rolling bomb. Add the explosiveness of lithium-ion when combined with water and oxygen and you are now rolling down the road with enough explosive force to create a small crater as well as take out about 20 cars within the surrounding area. Add another point that it takes 32% more pollutants in the earth to manufacter hybrids and there is no positive reason to build or drive hybrids except that the EPA and manufacturers stand to get rich.
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Originally Posted by DangerousDuramax
(Post 108765)
ANYTIME you use ANY method whethe it be mechanical, chemical, or or elctro-motive you generate heat. There is no known method to man of generating energy without creating heat. Hydrogen powered and fuel cell powered vehicles have the same issue but on abigger level. Anytime you invovle hydroen and oxygen you create a massive amount of heat without a natural catalyst to counter-act it. Not to mention the point we were making earlier that anytime you ontain hydrogen you can arolling bomb. Add the explosiveness of lithium-ion when combined with water and oxygen and you are now rolling down the road with enough explosive force to creat a small crater as well as take out about 20 cars within the surrounding area. add another point that it takes 32% more pollutants in the earth to manufacter hybrids and there is no positive reason to build or drive hybrids except that the EPA and manufacturers stand to get rich.
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this all reminds me of the article about a hybrid being more polluting than a hummer when you include all the production materials and mileage and all...
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