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RSWORDS 10-03-2010 05:18 PM

Handgun Concealed Carry, External Saftey or No External Saftey?
 

Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 630257)
I don't like GLOCK, cause they have NO safety. Buy a 1911 or a CZ 75, both these guns have a thumb safety, both are ACCURATE & both can be carried COCKED-N-LOCKED:tu: If you want to buy a gun check out these two web-sites GUNBROKER & AUCTION ARMS:yeah:

I see peoples point with this but I personally dont care if a gun has a saftey or not... I CC three or four days a week with one in the chamber and saftey off on my Taurus and I used to carry a Glock. A revolver has no saftey... All in what your comfortable with.

As for teh High Points Jason has one in .45 and says it would be better suted as a club then a gun.... I've no perdonally shot it though but he HATES it. I used to have a Bersa Mini Firestorm in .40cal and I loved it, tad heavy but a great gun for the price.

RSWORDS 10-03-2010 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 630576)
safe action trigger, my rectum:scare2: If the glock is loaded & a pencil, twig, little kids finger, or anything that wonders into the trigger guard & pushes or pull on the trigger the glock will fire:s:

as will any revolver out there, besides... whats your loaded gun doing in protected around a kid? A saftey is no replacment for general gun saftey and common sence. I expect that kinda thinking from some others around here but I think you have more common sence then that.

gunman41mag 10-03-2010 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 630664)
as will any revolver out there, besides... whats your loaded gun doing in protected around a kid? A saftey is no replacment for general gun saftey and common sence. I expect that kinda thinking from some others around here but I think you have more common sence then that.

Yes a revolver has N O safety, BUT if the hammer is down it takes 12 to 15 pounds of pull to make it fired:humm: BUT a loaded GLOCK only takes{depending if it has the 3.5 or 5 pound trigger):scare2: Would you carry a revolver with the hammer cocked(only 3 pound trigger pull):scare2:

RSWORDS 10-03-2010 05:35 PM

I've carrried a Glock (along with many police, gov aginsies and other people) for along time. Give me one instance were a glock trigger can be pulled with out a finger on it...

RSWORDS 10-03-2010 05:56 PM

The bottom line is like everything else its what you want, the taurus I carry now and the Bersa I used to own both have external safties, but I never use them so its no big deal to me for a Glock to not have an external saftey, the other three safties it has are sufficent to ease my mind. My gun stays in the holster (wear the trigger is gaurded) and if it comes out it will be to shoot something and I dont want to be in teh ER or teh morge becasue I took to long to get teh saftey off or forgot it all together.

Steph on the other hand has a Walther PK380 and choses to use teh saftey. Thats her choice.

gunman41mag 10-03-2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 630676)
I've carrried a Glock (along with many police, gov aginsies and other people) for along time. Give me one instance were a glock trigger can be pulled with out a finger on it...

give me an instance where any G U N trigger can be pulled without a finger on it:nope: problem is when SHTF, most people get a rush & their instincts is to grab their gun, & their fingers goes for the trigger:scare2: Nice to have a MANUEL thumb safety:yeah:

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Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 630682)
The bottom line is like everything else its what you want, the taurus I carry now and the Bersa I used to own both have external safties, but I never use them so its no big deal to me for a Glock to not have an external saftey, the other three safties it has are sufficent to ease my mind. My gun stays in the holster (wear the trigger is gaurded) and if it comes out it will be to shoot something and I dont want to be in teh ER or teh morge becasue I took to long to get teh saftey off or forgot it all together.

Steph on the other hand has a Walther PK380 and choses to use teh saftey. Thats her choice.

With a thumb safety, as you grab your gun, your thumb will be on the safety, there is N O lost of time when you need to shoot:tu:

RSWORDS 10-03-2010 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 630683)
give me an instance where any G U N trigger can be pulled without a finger on it:nope: problem is when SHTF, most people get a rush & their instincts is to grab their gun, & their fingers goes for the trigger:scare2: Nice to have a MANUEL thumb safety:yeah:

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With a thumb safety, as you grab your gun, your thumb will be on the safety, there is N O lost of time when you need to shoot:tu:

You just countered your own points...

You said that in a SHTF situation some peoples instinct is to grab teh gun and shoot... then in the next sentence said that naturally when you grab your gun you sweep the saftey, (which is lost on me because I dont hold any of my guns with a grip on the saftey, but thats my shooting style) Also if you draw your gun on someone you shoot them, this aint the movies were you point a gun, tell the bad guy to drop his gun and kick it to you as you get teh pretty girl, if a guy is willing to take something to the level that you need your gun then they will not hesitate to shoot you when they see you too have a gun, and if your dumb enough to point a gun at a bad guy with the saftey on and your finger not on teh trigger then you gonna be really upset when you get your ass handed to you. For range use yes a saftey and finger off the trigger is priorty. For self defence, thats out teh window, if your gonna draw down on someone you need to be 100% ready to shoot to kill, mentally, legally, and physically.

gunman41mag 10-03-2010 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 630701)
You just countered your own points...

You said that in a SHTF situation some peoples instinct is to grab teh gun and shoot... then in the next sentence said that naturally when you grab your gun you sweep the saftey, (which is lost on me because I dont hold any of my guns with a grip on the saftey, but thats my shooting style) Also if you draw your gun on someone you shoot them, this aint the movies were you point a gun, tell the bad guy to drop his gun and kick it to you as you get teh pretty girl, if a guy is willing to take something to the level that you need your gun then they will not hesitate to shoot you when they see you too have a gun, and if your dumb enough to point a gun at a bad guy with the saftey on and your finger not on teh trigger then you gonna be really upset when you get your ass handed to you. For range use yes a saftey and finger off the trigger is priorty. For self defence, thats out teh window, if your gonna draw down on someone you need to be 100% ready to shoot to kill, mentally, legally, and physically.

I said "your thumb will be on the safety, there is N O lost of time when you need to shoot. Your thunmb will be on the safety, you only remove the safety when your ready to shoot:humm: If you shoot a bad guy that surrender or backs away, it's called murder:scare2:

RSWORDS 10-03-2010 06:33 PM

Also some one freaking out and grabbing there gun on instinct and putting there finger on teh trigger and pulling it is a person problem that a manual saftey wont solve.

RSWORDS 10-03-2010 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 630704)
I said "your thumb will be on the safety, there is N O lost of time when you need to shoot. Your thunmb will be on the safety, you only remove the safety when your ready to shoot:humm: If you shoot a bad guy that surrender or backs away, it's called murder:scare2:

funny, in VA you can only shoot when your life is in danger, you draw to kill, if you pull out your gun you need to be ready to shoot. Yes if he backs away you cant shoot him but there is a VERY good chance that when an armed BG sees your gun he is going to start shooting. At that point the less yuo have to think about before returning fire the better.

Just my train of thought, your allowed yours.


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