i use snuff every day all day long. you know tobacco was used in all forms years ago. if tobacco companys are putting chemicals in tobacco thats harmful that should stop but i think everybody has a personal right to choose what they do. i still like a good smoke too. when people look at you 200 yards away to call you out thats not right.

The founding fathers were also overtly racist... Society has progressed a little bit in the last 150 years. 440,000 Americans die each year from smoking and it costs $96 billion a year in direct health care costs, and an additional $97 billion a year in lost productivity. There's your tax money. Sounds great to me.

The new increased tax from cigarettes goes to the children s health care act of 2009. but be warned they won't stop at tobacco. Beware if you like potato chips, Pepsi ,Coke, a big juicy big mac or quarter pounder. I just think it is ironic that the constitution was drafted and signed by tobacco users and now it's against the law! That's what happens when the Woodstock hippies get to running the government,they say " don't smoke its bad we no for sure we got real high in the 60's and 70's" hahahaha makes me laugh.

K-50 once again what do you know about American history,I don't want to hear your revised history and I think the founding fathers took good care of their slaves the one's that had them, and the slaves they had were slaves in Africa and were sold by their black owners to slave ships and do tell me how many black, slave owners were they in America at this same time, were they racist too!!!

And you haven't came no where, your still in Canada, It's America that's came a long way, not all of it good, and going down hill fast the last 10 years or so.

so tell me....how do you REALLY feel???? :pca1: :tttt: :c:

Hey Scarecrow I am up here in lovely Millville NJ working for a while, I still wanna go see the US mint and all the money :jump: there are a lot of diesel guys up here!!Does the social group get together around PA?

i got all excited and though you were talkin about another kinda smokers:dang:

Their only taxing that in California but all the founding Father's had hemp farms

pm sent

i gotta agree, i dip everyday and the wife smokes. but thats our choice. she doesnt smoke in our house but i do dip, i mean its my house. she and i both ask whoever we are with if they mind if we dip or smoke. if they say they dont want us to thats fine we wait. its more common respect then anything else. it may be bad for me but nowadays everything is. its just that little something that makes it easier toget through the day, i wrap all my bottles in tape so you cant see the spit and i cap it up so i dont spill it. just because you dont like it doesnt mean you can walk over and tell someone that its bad for them and they need to spit/put it out im sure they have been told before by someone who's opinion they value. it makes me mad when someone walks across the street to tell my wife to put her cig out. wouldnt it be easier to stay over there and not say anything? just venting not trying to make non tabacco users angry.