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handymanherb 01-16-2010 12:48 PM

The voting age needs to be 40 and up
 
I was talking to a young man at the watering hole night and seems like a nice guy till he told me he didn't know why Christian conservatives are putting down obama when he just trying to help everyone out, like the health care he said.

I than asked him if he knew how well the government runs programs, asked him if he heard of the TSA the newest program to help us, he said yea I was pissed at the story of a 8 year old who was first checked at 2 for his name being on a watch list.

I said you want people like this running your health care????

At least he left thinking about it anyway. who knows he might give up being on the left one day, like he was bragging about went we starting talking, but he didn't have to tell me, when asked my political leaning I said conservative and then he asked are you a Christian, bing, I knew he was a liberal, but he did talk and not rant so there hope anyway.

Begle1 01-16-2010 01:13 PM

So you don't think I should be allowed to vote, huh?


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Do you know what I think? I think that before you're allowed to vote, you should have to present at least three pieces of poorly-thought out, inaccurate populist glurge emails printed out of your in-box. What do you think of that? :tttt:

ArizonaRedneck 01-16-2010 01:49 PM

begle Mr Obama had an unprecedented level of support among young people and new voters in the 2008 election.

He won the votes of those under 30 by an impressive 66% to 31%, much higher than in any previous election.

thats why herb says what he says:humm:

handymanherb 01-16-2010 02:56 PM

and that includes me, hell I voted for Jimmy Carter, I leaned toward the left in some areas, but after seeing where that got me, a country full of illegals and our way of life going down hill fast, it would have been better if I hadn't voted for the easy way out of the problems and paid a lot more attention to what they were really doing to us in the long run.

Took a lot of growing and getting my head slammed more than once by the people I helped put in office, and I still have to hear of what crazy stuff Jimmy Carter is doing. now.

jbrown1132 01-16-2010 04:43 PM

and of course the government won't mind passing an idiotic health care bill since they themselves are excluded from it. :argh:

chpmnsws6 01-16-2010 05:09 PM

Can you guys define what is idiotic about the proposed health care system, why the current health care system is perfect, and why every other world power but us has adopted socialist health care?

I've read 8-10 books on the subject along with writing a 10 page (ALOT for me) paper about it. In doing so, its actually converted me to a more pro health care reform voter. It might hurt my future occupations salary some, but it has the prospect of being much better for the country as a whole. :w2:

R.Cassidy 01-16-2010 05:22 PM

I agree some kids are just plain stupid when it comes to politics and the ways of the world. The ones that work at mcdonalds and their parents havent worked a day in their life. Im only 20 but i work hard at some very conservitive jobs (guiding hunters and raising cattle). When i was in high school my senior year was when they were deciding who was running and just listining to what some kids said made me sick. But there are some kids that know more. Us youngins arnt as bad as you think. :tu:

handymanherb 01-16-2010 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by chpmnsws6 (Post 472876)
Can you guys define what is idiotic about the proposed health care system, why the current health care system is perfect, and why every other world power but us has adopted socialist health care?

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1st when the rest of the world gets sick they run to the USA and pay for treatment, they should be fighting it more than we are, where are they going to go for quick health care when we become like them.

Get the government and lawyers out of the insurance and the health care and the price go back down.

2nd name me one government run program thats works, the TSA has been searching a kid since he been 2 years old because he has the same name as some one one the watch list and you want those people like this running your health care.

I sorry sir your name is on the list as a heroin user so were are refusing any health care for you.

I grew up in the Air Force as my Dad was in for 22 years, now we just medical wasn't the best, wasn't the worst, but it was different from what treatment the town people got, we got every thing required but a lot stopped at that.


Same thing when I was in the Seabee's, I went to sick call and would see a pecker checker not a Doc till after a few visits with the same problem, you get care, just may take a while.

After I got out I went to the VA for a infection on my foot that started while I was getting out, the Dr at the VA said I had VD on my foot, I said Dr I never had where you usually get it and don't know about your love life but I use something a little farther off the floor.

So any way he gives a few different things over a few weeks and making it worse after a month of my foot about to itch off, He sent me to New Orleans to a Dermatologist, he walked in the room laughing reading my file and said let see the VD, laughed again and said that's simple and threw a script over his shoulder as he laughed his was back out, filled the scrip and used it and all was good and it healed in three days.

Only had to suffer with it for 30 days and then drive 2 and a half hours each way to get it fixed, so you tell me what would be wrong with all the free health care, you young ones will be paying for longer than I will.

TTipsword 01-16-2010 06:53 PM

Has anyone thought of health vare in 20-30 yrs.? Im 18 and my biggest fear in my country is medicare. in this 20-30 yr. time frame 100% of the federal budget will be consumed by medicare alone. Who should pay for this? Is it the baby boomers that will need the care in 20 yrs. responsible to pay for this or will it be my responsiblity to pay? I know more taxes suck but taxes will help pay for this down the road. It alone will not take care of the problem but it will help. I hate this politics bullshit but something needs to be done. At least something i said you can agree with right?

Lostnwalmart 01-16-2010 07:14 PM

first of herb screw you, My right to vote is a sacred thing that even though some may squander and waste i hold dear to me. but i do understand where your comeing from most young people dont care about all the facts and want every one else to do every thing for them. i did not vote for this current leader ship and they will feel the wrath of my one vote next time as well. i think a small government is a god government but if every one agreed then life would be waaay to boring


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