When I go to work,
I go down to the assembly area, pull back a plastic cover and being able to touch a well shaped body of a 2000lbs finest to get American made material, made with proud by American workers with american tools and thats 100% for sure- because its an American missile!
Damn, I'm proud of it!
And I love to work with it, because it has a proven reliability of 99.8% under all conditions.

it is getting harder to find products that are truely made 100% in the u.s.a. but i do look at the labels to see where the product is made prior to buying it. i sure feel alot better about myself when the product i'm looking for is made in the u.s.a.
n.a.f.t.a. has screwed our country over big time! :ouch:

snap- on tools is that why they cost so damn much:w2:

...and they own our homes, our cars, our military.

If "We The People" have a loan from a bank, that money is part of the U.S. debt load in the world financial markets...the debt load that is mostly owned by China.


It's been a world economy for centuries. We've never been self sufficient. Never. Ever. Regardless of what we think. Never.

I agree with several points brought up in this thread.
My biggest pet peeve is with all the skills, ingenuity and experience that has been moved overseas and as the old guys retire there is nobody to take their place like the generations before. I mean really how many playstation jobs will there really be in the future? I am somewhat conservative and travel all over the world for whatever that is worth. Even before nafta we got shafted when our leadership wanted us to be a country of services over being one of manufacturing. Japan took out Detroit, next it will be Korea/India/China taken out Japan we have become such a throw away society I doubt most will pay it any attention when it happens. And of course there will be all kinds of rationality’s of how it’s not that big of a deal. Because our next generation will always have jobs, like the ones that consist of asking things like, “Would you like fry’s with that?” Sure hope the Chineese like lots of fries.:pca1:

I never recognized american products on the european market( except the 3C's: clothing, cars and CocaCola)
And there was a simple explanation.
Americas market was big enough to consume their own products. They never felt the need to export in huge numbers.
This gap is now filled by the asians.
Did you recognize that the variety of products is getting smaller? You get everywhere the same articles. Ten years ago there was much more variety to choose from. This variety has gone because of single cheap competition. Who has caused this? The consumer-always going for a bargain.
Who buys a Warn winch, if you can buy an exact cheap copy of it. It's not Chinas fault- it's the fault of the consumer. Chinese were only that clever to recognize that market and take the advantage.

The only way back is to turn consumers habbits. That won't be easy.

My last( and i mean last) pair of Danner Loggers, which I love and bought because they were "made in USA", where actually, made in China.:td: Made me very sad.:sad:

i was at work yesterday and noticed that the john deere brief case weights are made in america... the weights are cast in america and the iron comes from either Michigan, Missouri or Minnesota... so there... i found a product totally american made :tttt:

China owns less of our debt than we do, and the large quantity that they own is more dangerous to them as it is to us. Apples to apples between all of the countries in the world, America's debt is not superlative. Foreign countries own less of our debt, by percentage of our GDP, then Ireland, France, Great Britain, Switzerland or Australia. When it comes to straight-up public debt as a percentage of GDP, we have about the same amount of debt as Canada and Germany, substantially less than the manufacturing titan of Japan. We're not the economic behemoth that we once were, but we're in the same boat as a whole lot of the world and we're a little bit better stocked believe it or not.

No country is self-sufficient.

Trade is good.

The loss of manufacturing jobs is natural for an economy that is educating itself out of an industrial boom. American populism is based on the flawed belief that everybody in America should be able to get a college degree and then work on an assembly line for the rest of their lives. Service sector jobs are not fictionally leveraged paper tigers just because you can't weigh their production.

My Truck was made in Mexico, I have to say I haven't had any of the little problems some have had, but then they only hire the best down there and the trash they send here to build your houses.

I guess the Cummins is made in USA anyway