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toy4xchris 02-11-2009 04:31 PM

to all you smoke happy drivers
 
I saw something today that kind of made me think a lil truck passed me with a mobile diesel smoke test sticker in the back window so because of this I decided that I should say some stuff. I know some of these links are older I figured at the rate that diesel popularity is growing as well as this site I figured informing some people newer to diesels some of the issues we are fighting.

Rolling Smokestacks - Strong regulations are needed to clean up diesel tracks and buses

A Smoking Gun - Environmental Defense Fund

I know I may be smashing on the fun of rolling some coal throughout the neighborhood but just remember be careful of who you let have it because you never know who they are thank you for listening and looking at the links hope this helps some people understand what we have to put up with to enjoy what we have.

P.S. I am not an anti-smoke guy it has its time and place just don't think excessive amounts is needed on the road if you wanna smoke like a train do it on the track and not into the windows of fellow drivers vehicles

/Rant off/

busta 02-11-2009 04:48 PM

X2

:U: very well said chris

txredman 02-11-2009 05:20 PM

To some people that is a touchy subject - well put!!:choochoo:

Hummin Cummins 02-11-2009 07:36 PM

Interesting mile for mile, trucks do a lot more harm to public health then do cars.:bat: That article above sure makes diesel trucks out to be evil.
I guess the guy in the Hummer is green after all :argh:

greasemonkey 02-19-2009 02:57 PM

yep, I love to roll coal now and then too; but in the interest of preserving our hobby we REALLY need to watch it. I know of quite a few county employees (pretty high up) and officers that are really offended when they see even a tiny puff of soot...not that I think it's right but we need to be a lot more careful than most of us have been; especially now when the regulations seem to be aimed at who can afford to pay fines and are crafted to appease the loudest public outcry.:madd:

cumminscr 02-24-2009 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by toy4xchris (Post 286454)
I saw something today that kind of made me think a lil truck passed me with a mobile diesel smoke test sticker in the back window so because of this I decided that I should say some stuff. I know some of these links are older I figured at the rate that diesel popularity is growing as well as this site I figured informing some people newer to diesels some of the issues we are fighting.

Rolling Smokestacks - Strong regulations are needed to clean up diesel tracks and buses

A Smoking Gun - Environmental Defense Fund

I know I may be smashing on the fun of rolling some coal throughout the neighborhood but just remember be careful of who you let have it because you never know who they are thank you for listening and looking at the links hope this helps some people understand what we have to put up with to enjoy what we have.

P.S. I am not an anti-smoke guy it has its time and place just don't think excessive amounts is needed on the road if you wanna smoke like a train do it on the track and not into the windows of fellow drivers vehicles

/Rant off/


hate to say this but who cares? soot goes in the ground! once i get my truck im rollin coal on every lil civic i see with a fart can:choochoo:

cummins freak 02-24-2009 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by cumminscr (Post 293913)
hate to say this but who cares? soot goes in the ground! once i get my truck im rollin coal on every lil civic i see with a fart can:choochoo:


Its not where it actually ends up. Its the perception of what its doing. The fact that our smoke looks bad is enough. so your attitude and future clamed actions are the cause of our sport being watched. To the greenies those fart pipe hondas are gold compared to our trucks.

cumminscr 02-24-2009 09:06 AM

cummins freak- this is true, just tryin to say my opnion

1SlowCTD 02-24-2009 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by cumminscr (Post 293913)
hate to say this but who cares? soot goes in the ground! once i get my truck im rollin coal on every lil civic i see with a fart can:choochoo:

This is honestly the attitude that is getting DPFs put on diesels. We as motorsport fans and enthusiasts need to look at the perception that normal people that dont drive diesels or love them as much as us have. They see the smoke bellowing from our trucks(which i wont lie i love) and its gross, smells gross, and inpairs their vision. It doesn't matter what we know about our emmisions, its the uneducated drivers and vehicle owners that have their voice heard whern it comes to diesels. The honest thing is, smoke needs to get handled better and needs to be managed better by the diesel enthusiast behind the wheel of his or her vehicle. This is for the on the road diesel vehicle, im not talking about the seld trucks or drag vehicles out there. One day the smoke on the tracks will need to be managed for safety reasons(drag racing.) I know alot of people dont want to be forced into this, so we need to as a whole diesel world start monitoring ourselves instead of letting the EPA and as some call them, tree huggers, say what we can do with our sport. We are under the microscope of more than just the EPA. We have an opportunity rto do something before we are forced to do something. My opinion is we need to monitor ourselves and look outside of the box, smoke can be fun but it can also be the death of the sport i love, lets not shoot ourselves in the foot.

05cumminsdrw 02-24-2009 09:37 AM

1slowCTD very well put i am new to the hole diesel sence but i still understand when we need to watch areselfs because we dont need big brother telling what to do anymore then he already is.


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