stinking jury duty
 

Well, a month ago, I got a letter saying I was selected for 2009 jury duty. A couple of days ago, I got another letter saying that I am expected to appear for jury selection on Jan. 5th and to call the night before. What the heck can a guy do to get out of this crap. I never used to register to vote so I didn't have to go through this crap, but South Dakota changed from registered voters to registered driver's licenses this year.
I want to see guilty people pay for their crimes and all, but not if it is going to cost me $200-300 per day (work lost). Not to mention it's not like I have vacation days being self employed.

Josh

That sucks a big one:argh::madd: Since your self employed I would think that will get you out of it. Can't run a business from a court room.:booo:

That's what I am kind of hoping for, but when I was put on call or whatever for the year, I had to fill out a form and write a letter if there was a reason I couldn't do it. I told them that I will be loosing money and I am the sole money maker in the household and now this.

You can get out of jury Duty if your self employed and can show proof that you will lose business or money:U::c: Good Luck

Have to have a damn good reason for em to release you, and your self employed, so there's your damn good reason!!!:U:

I like where your head's at wildbill. :U:

Believe it's the same way with a subpoena to. :humm:

Just got a call telling me that they settled out of court, but there is another one for the 13th. I think it has something to do with a guy pleading guilty to a dui for having the keys in his hands, but the judge wouldn't accept the plea. WTF?? Oh, well. I'll tell them about me being a sole proprietor for my business. No worky= no food for my family. And I will tell them my outright BIASED opinion.

:humm:tell em your a racists lol
black white purple you hate em

Lovely. Got a call today saying I have to call Wednesday night to see if I need to go in and the wife asked how we are supposed to pay our bills since I am the sole provider and the lady told her that even if it will make me lose my house, I have to serve. Only thing I can do is write the judge a letter.
I found on the web somewhere that one of our judges wouldn't even excuse a woman with a newborn after the newborn was 6 weeks old so she could breastfeed. Heartless F-ers. I think I am screwed.
Oh, yeah, they said I have to call every Sunday for the next 6 months to see if there are any cases.

Don't know how it is in SD but in TX if you have an aggrevated misdemeanor you don't have to serve jury duty :yeah: I stole some beer (26 cases) when I was a young one and got caught :ouch: stupid kids! :ph: I don't recommend doin that to get out of it but if you have done anything stupid like me, you might check on it. :w2:

So maybe I should just find someone I don't like and crack them one. That should be an aggravated misdemeanor. That could work.:w2:

I have been lucky, I never get called, But whatever case you go to, just say That guy has to be guilty or else the police wouldn't have arrested him !!You'll see how fast you'll get pulled out of jury duty !!

Hypothetically speaking, If you NEVER acknowledge reciept of the jury duty summons, how can they PROVE you did recieve it? It comes in REGULAR mail! Not certified, not Process served, so IF you NEVER recieved it, and DO NOT respond to it (Which would be proof you recieved it) It must have gotten LOST in the mail system...

Sounds like it's too late for you. Good luck!

Yeah Bill, It's to freaking late for him !!!

Nothing like shirking your civic duty as a productive member of todays society.

1st ya admit you don't vote & then are looking for excuses to get you out of something you should feel honored to do instead of something you are trying to weazle out of.

Would you want your jurors to whine/cry/weazle out of serving & then get stuck with the mouth breathers that can't think for themselves?

Hate to tell ya, but in SC that won't fly at all. They say they mailed it and you say you didn't get it, they call you a liar. Instant bench warrant, and taxi service.

I got thrown in jail for the night for contempt of court due to causing a "ruckus" by making a wild-ass statement about the person accused and how I knew he was guilty:w2::w2::w2:

I got called in years ago after i turned 18.I had no choice so i went.The guy that was being charged in my case,i feel was guilty.But it indid up in a hung jury.

I guess everyone is entitled their opinion, but I don't agree that if it is going to cause great financial hardship for your family, I don't care who you are, then the civic duty isn't worth it. To each their own. I'm sure the way you talk, you wouldn't have to worry about losing a few hundred bucks per week due to jury duty, but that isn't the case with everyone.

I know I never claimed to be a 'productive member of todays society'.

I don't vote because voting is a right - which means I don't HAVE to vote. I DON'T feel honored to lose my $200 I would make at work to go listen to some 'weasle' tryin to get out of somethin he did that was illegal to begin with. If they want me to serve they need to pay me what I would make at work then take it out of the weasle's ass. Don't tell me I HAVE to go, HAVE to take a huge paycut for the day and make me feel like shit cause I don't go. I have a family to feed and I do it the honest way, I work. If some sap wants to go out and do somethin illegal then he should pay for it. There is alot of homeless/unemployed folks out there that would take the $12 or $13 a day that they would get for it.

You can request a jury trial for a speeding ticket - how big a waste of EVERYBODY'S time and money is that? If I get a speeding ticket (which I have- many) I pay for it and go on about my business.

I understand there is a place for a jury trial. I'm just sayin there are people out there that NEED the $ they make at work and there are people out there that don't work for whatever reason that could use the money for jury duty.

If I'm being forced to do something its not much of an honor, unless of course this is a communist society then I would be forced to feel honored.

Not tryin to stir shit, just voicing my opinion, as a productive member of todays society. :usa:

how to get out of jurt duty
How to Get Out of Jury Duty | eHow.com
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Out-of-Jury-Duty
i wounder if any one has had a court trial and also gotten a letter to serve jurt duty on the same day. :humm:

I must admit it's great seeing what kind of people we have here and how serious they take the responsibilities of being a member of society.

It's all about me is truer than ever and just taking a look at the selfish self centered posts about whining and crying how hard things would be if they don't get out of jury duty is no big surprise, let alone trying to rationalize and justify there self centered "poor me" actions. Ohhh I'm going to be out a days wages, or even a couple days wages and then I won't be able to feed my family....... So you never get sick, never get injured and never take a day off to do something other then work. Well that's way to bad you got yourself into that predicament and are living from check to check about ready to slide into poverty and homelessness. Guess you better be selling your diesel trucks and get geo metros due to the price of fuel, but now I'm sure you just "need" your truck to survive along with all the performance modification's that have been done since they are not cheap.

Yet when things don't go there way they are the 1st to whine and cry about things, how they were wronged and how badly they are being treated by the system & "the man" Then they will bitch abouot the shitty jury they had, how they were a bunch of homeless trash and not a jury of there peers, hard working salt of the earth people who know and understand what it's like.

Oh and just for the record, it's not a right but a privilege and everybody who did not vote at all cast a vote for obama & as such we are going to get what we deserve for not taking our responsibilities seriously. People who did not vote can NOT bitch and groan/moan/whine/cry about the President elect or any actions he takes once he becomes the president the 20th.

And again for the record we live within our means & yeppers missing a few days of work will hurt, will make a impact but nothing major like loosing our house since we budget everything and don't live paycheck to paycheck with more toys than we can afford.

It's no wonder America is the way she is now with Americans as self centered as they are...

funny cuz the government can give hand outs to people that immigrate, don't work, make babies they can't afford.

but they won't pay people sacrificing a few days of work for jury duty?
us DIESEL driving, modified wine babies, who apparently work hard to pay our taxes.
i'm pretty sure we have the right to complain if we don't want to do jury duty!


there is enough unemployed people out there now that have time to serve on a jury with out bothering the working society

So you want unemployed people to be a jury for you, instead of people who are like you, think like you and work for a living, talk about sticking your head in the sand.

Just another shining example of how/why obama was elected and how America is going down the shitter. Americans are to self centered to give a shit about anything except what they want when they want it to give them pleasure.

i was called for duty 3 times already and only lost one day of pay for it. i am sorta in the same money situation. just ride it out maybe nothing will even happen with it. thats what i did and it seemed to work. then if you do go in tell them that you have some kind of issue with the case and they will prolly just pass by you. you will still lose day of work but its better then a week.

well if you wanna take a poll, people like me aren't the ones.. killing, stabbing,shooting,stealing,raping..

this is America... poor,rich both get called to duty.
i don't think an honest hard working american should sacrifice time out of his like to feed family. the man the people work for what they have and should not be taken away from them!

there are plenty of people collecting unemployment,welfare,disability,college,trust fund babies, kids 18+ still in high school, just graduated and don't have a family to support.

YES, i want unemployed people on a jury for me! I just got laid off. I'm unemployed until April. does that mean I'm not capable of making a rational decision?

what are you implying buy saying "unemployed people" what do you mean?
are you stereotyping that people with no job are not able to make a rational decision on their own or not up to par with the rest of society?


if i had the option i would claim independence from the united states!
i hate voting, i'm sick of hearing the politics!
news flash 1 vote does not make a difference!
i voted and Obama is still gonna be prez. oh Great.....whooie.....hurray
i'm glad i wasted my time at the polls...

oh yeah, i know why i voted. to shut those aholes up that say "you don't vote so you can't say nothin"
i voted now you have to listin.

i vote, i pay my taxes,i pay my parking tickest, i pay my speeding tickets, i obay the law.
if i don't want to go to jury duty tuff shit

Trying to rationalize and justify your poor excuses to get out of jury duty just makes you look like a whiner and self centered selfish person.

Keep up the good work destroying America home of the sheeple.

i'm part wampanoag/abenaki American.... what kind of american are you?

hail to the thief!

I'm a American by birth & one who does not make piss poor excuses trying to get out of ones civic duty and personal responsibility.

Not to mention one that spent 20 years in the service to our country and 7 years to my adopted community.

What have you done to improve America other than be a taker??

taker? you support the people that raped,murdered and killed the original owners of this nation.

alot of my family was either in or still is in the military. the military is a choice. you chose to serve a country that was stolen.

taker.. obviously you can't read well
"i vote, i pay my taxes,i pay my parking tickets, i pay my speeding tickets, i obey the law."

my 1st job out side of being self employed and i get laid off for the rest of the winter as they always do and i'm the taker?
i have been a lobsterman my whole life. i'm the guy out in the freezing cold with ice hanging off me trying to make a buck.

you are sucking up our tax money, your health insurance, your dental insurance, your monthly pay check comes from people like us. where do you think the money comes from?

i don't have any insurance.... i have to work for what i have...
the only one here with poor excuses is you and your piss poor argument.

people like you are the reasion my grandfarthers told me not to join the military.
that and on one side of the family i'm the only boy left to carry on our last name.

I agree 10000% - MOST of us on here bust our a$$es all week to make sure our families have food on the table and a roof over their heads.
In december '08 the number of unemployed increased by 632,000 to 11.1 million people so that means there is alot of people out there that really need the money. Alot of them are probably collecting unemployment, not because they want to but HAVE to and probably never have before, more than likely they are sitting at home because there are no jobs out there for them to get.
People like you that are laid off right now and alot of the others that didn't just get laid off are probably MORE 'up to par' because we make up most of the workforce in this country.
Claiming independence from the country sounds better and better all the time. I hate voting too, thats wh I'm one of the "losers" that doesn't. This is supposed to be a free country so we CAN have the right to do that kind of thing.
There are alot of ingnorant bastards out there that don't want to work for an honest living. I guess its easier for them to leech off the rest of the working class folks by stealing and killing, then get a court appointed lawyer that WE pay for to get a trial by jury, that WE pay for, and then go to prison so WE can pay for them again. All of these are 'rights' but so is owning a gun, which I WILL use, to shoot the scum if they try to steal from me or hurt my family. Maybe that makes me a redneck or somethin but that is also my right. It just kills me that people that do all this illegal $hit get the rest of the honest country to pay for their 'rights'.

I appreciate you serving for the coutry for 20 years and keeping it free so we can continue to do this and everything else we do everyday but the military is not the only thing that keeps this country what it is. I never served because that is my right, again I thank you for that. Just because an american don't serve doesn't mean we are not doing anything to improve america. You serve to keep america free so we can work and pay taxes so you can still get your check from the military. If the military stops fighting for our rights we won't be free for long, if the rest of us stop working (which means no more taxes paid) america won't have enough $ for a military. "POOR" excuses is exactly what I'm using, I took a 50% pay cut so I could keep my job and not become one of the 11.1 million people in this country that are unemployed and can't find a job.

For the record, I am would not mind doing a couple short trials per month. But I am trying to be proactive, and make sure that I do not get stuck on a grand jury or on a trial that I will be out of work for a week or more out of a month. Also, a year and a half ago, I separated my shoulder while working. When you have a separated shoulder, the fix is to walk around for 6 weeks with your arm in a sling. The type of separation that I had tore ALL of the ligaments holding my shoulder together. I couldn't even lift my 6 month old son with my other arm for 4 weeks due to the strain that it caused my bad shoulder for fear that I would hurt it worse and cause permanent damage. In other words, I couldn't do a damn thing for a month and a half and couldn't do much for a couple more weeks after that. Oh, plus hospital bills.
On my truck 1. I did my own work on my exhaust= really cheap. 2. My CAI came from ebay for $40 shipped to my door with my cheap install. 3. The gauges were $300 and I installed myself and they help me make sure that when I am pulling my trailers for work, nothing is out of the norm (kind of a good thing when you don't have much money and can't afford repairing a trans or motor) 4. debadging was done by me too so there you go 5. I got the Smarty for $600 used (other than the smarty, nothing really cost much, and I got that before I was injured and had a meager savings.
Now I am trying to get ahead, so someday in the near future I can do things like this and not worry about paying my house payment after sitting on a jury for a week.
I don't vote mainly because I don't feel that I can make an informed enough decision to make me feel good about my vote. I don't want to go in and just start checking boxes because "I am registered". If you don't like it, tough.
Ramprat, I have noticed that every post you have made gives zero advice and seems to only be there because you feel that you are superior to everyone due to some ego maniacal delusions. Again, just my opinions, just as everyone of your post prove to be. Just opinions.
Thank you and Good night.

And who was the "original" "owners" of America, it sure was not the Indians who came and raped, murdered and killed the people before them.

Show me a country that has not been fought over, where you have winners and losers, where one people are superior to another in combat.

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Oops, I forgot to take my meds again :ouch::ouch:

I can't give advice, I'm not a newspaper colominst who tells people how to love and how to think.

i like how you pick and choose what part you wish to comment on..
get educated.... native Americans only fought with other native Americans.
they got here from a little thing called "land bridge" before the continents separated..

native Americans where the 1st settlers here.
hows your health insurance holdin up that us workin folk pay for?
got any more ignorant comments?

it's a superiority complex

generally people with self esteem issues get it
from being abused as a child,sexually,physically,mentally or being pushed around or beaten up at school.

then they move one to martial arts or military something to boost their esteem (just using examples)

my boss has it
he's a little feeble guy who talks down to everyone like he knows everything.
then when he screws it up he lies his way out of it.
when he corned in an argument he starts stuttering, kinda pathetic really
he's a draft dodger too! there is no honor in that

Does not matter, they lost and are a defeated people, some choose to live in the past and some have the ability to come out and be a productive member of society and some are warriors.


Ahhh, calling me ignorant now... I work 2 jobs along with my little "retirement" but I do go to the VA for what you would call "free" healthcare as I've been judged disabled by the VA's medical board due to service connected injuries.


I'm not the one full of ASSumptions and ignorance :pca1:

ROTFLMAO, keep up the great work, ya have me ROTFLMAO with your ignorant ASSumptions :lol88::lol88::hot::hot:

Ramprat, curious what you thought of the rest of my previous post. I would gladly accept your opinions if you didn't try to push your thoughts down everybody else's throats. I respect people that say their piece respectfully, but what you do is a whole other ball game. Seriously, what is your deal in general?

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Oh, and it doesn't matter to me what others think of me. I am who I am and my family loves me no matter what. That is the only real thing that matters to me.

Alright guys this is starting to get a little heated.
I will have to say though, Ramprat you are going over the line a little from the word go. Some of the things you have said are very insulting and there is no call for that. There is no reason why this can't be discussed in a civilized manner and we all move on.

If need be, I can move this thread and you can discuss further there.

Thanks MRaynor, but I don't think there is any need for the R rating. I think this keeps it calmer? If that's posible.

i think your just an other perpella head using Internet slang.
i notice you didn't deny having self esteem issues